{"id":11551,"date":"2026-10-27T12:00:00","date_gmt":"2026-10-27T11:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/johanno1.se\/?post_type=exmediatt&#038;p=11551"},"modified":"2026-10-28T12:33:10","modified_gmt":"2026-10-28T11:33:10","slug":"jetdrivna-shaheds-pa-himlen-over-odesa-hur-ukrainska-dronaroperatorer-jagar-fientliga-mal","status":"publish","type":"exmediatt","link":"https:\/\/johanno1.se\/sv\/media-tt\/jetdrivna-shaheds-pa-himlen-over-odesa-hur-ukrainska-dronaroperatorer-jagar-fientliga-mal\/","title":{"rendered":"JETDRIVNA \u201dSHAHEDS\u201d P\u00c5 HIMLEN \u00d6VER ODESA: Hur ukrainska dr\u00f6naroperat\u00f6rer jagar fientliga m\u00e5l"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"exmediatt-transcript\">\n<div class=\"exmediatt-transcript__turn exmediatt-transcript__turn--speaker-unknown\">\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speaker\">Ok\u00e4nd talare<\/p>\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speech\">\u2013<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"exmediatt-transcript__turn exmediatt-transcript__turn--speaker-01\">\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speaker\">Talare 1<\/p>\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speech\">F\u00f6r att f\u00f6rst\u00e5 hur det g\u00e5r till, s\u00e5 flyger vi mot fienden, vi fixerar honom, v\u00e5r huvuduppgift \u00e4r att f\u00e5 visuell kontakt, s\u00e5 att den etableras. \u2013 Och sedan, i enlighet med detta, slutar navigat\u00f6rens arbete h\u00e4r, och h\u00e4r b\u00f6rjar den direkta pilotens arbete.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"exmediatt-transcript__turn exmediatt-transcript__turn--speaker-02\">\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speaker\">Talare 2<\/p>\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speech\">\u2013 Jag hade inte tid i det \u00f6gonblicket, eftersom den i den h\u00e4r zonen redan gick in f\u00f6r anfall, och d\u00e4r spelar varje sekund sin roll.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"exmediatt-transcript__turn exmediatt-transcript__turn--speaker-03\">\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speaker\">Talare 3<\/p>\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speech\">\u2013 Och vad s\u00e4ger man, herr Oleg, att du \u00f6verhuvudtaget inte \u00e4r en legend i den h\u00e4r enheten, den f\u00f6rste som sk\u00f6t ner ett luftm\u00e5l?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"exmediatt-transcript__turn exmediatt-transcript__turn--speaker-02\">\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speaker\">Talare 2<\/p>\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speech\">\u2013 Ja, jag fick den f\u00f6rsta. Shahed. \u2013<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"exmediatt-transcript__turn exmediatt-transcript__turn--speaker-03\">\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speaker\">Talare 3<\/p>\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speech\">Shahed?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"exmediatt-transcript__turn exmediatt-transcript__turn--speaker-02\">\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speaker\">Talare 2<\/p>\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speech\">\u2013 Ja.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"exmediatt-transcript__turn exmediatt-transcript__turn--speaker-unknown\">\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speaker\">Ok\u00e4nd talare<\/p>\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speech\">\u2013<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"exmediatt-transcript__turn exmediatt-transcript__turn--speaker-03\">\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speaker\">Talare 3<\/p>\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speech\">Vanlig eller reaktiv?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"exmediatt-transcript__turn exmediatt-transcript__turn--speaker-02\">\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speaker\">Talare 2<\/p>\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speech\">\u2013 Nej, vanlig.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"exmediatt-transcript__turn exmediatt-transcript__turn--speaker-03\">\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speaker\">Talare 3<\/p>\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speech\">\u2013 Just nu jagar vi Shaheds som f\u00f6rs\u00f6ker ta sig in i Odessa, tillsammans med bes\u00e4ttningen fr\u00e5n den 447:e separata bataljonen f\u00f6r obemannade system inom Ukrainas marink\u00e5r, herr Ayaksky och herr Elvin. Ni \u00e4r piloter idag, s\u00e5vitt jag f\u00f6rst\u00e5r, eller hur? \u2013<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"exmediatt-transcript__turn exmediatt-transcript__turn--speaker-01\">\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speaker\">Talare 1<\/p>\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speech\">Ja, jag vill minnas det f\u00f6rflutna. \u2013<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"exmediatt-transcript__turn exmediatt-transcript__turn--speaker-03\">\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speaker\">Talare 3<\/p>\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speech\">Uppfattat. Och herr Elvin \u2013 stormning. \u2013 Ja, precis.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"exmediatt-transcript__turn exmediatt-transcript__turn--speaker-01\">\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speaker\">Talare 1<\/p>\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speech\">\u2013 N\u00e4r m\u00e5let n\u00e4rmar sig, om du uppt\u00e4ckte det inte l\u00e5ngt ute till havs utan redan n\u00e4ra land, \u00e4r det d\u00e4r viktigt att inte missa det \u00f6gonblick d\u00e5 det b\u00f6rjar g\u00e5 till anfall. \u2013 Det har funnits tillf\u00e4llen d\u00e5 vi inte l\u00e4ngre kunde driva bort m\u00e5let, och det var en fr\u00e5ga om tre till fyra sekunder. Och du ser hur det helt pl\u00f6tsligt b\u00f6rjar dyka och g\u00e5r in mot m\u00e5let, och tr\u00e4ffar det m\u00e5l som det siktade p\u00e5, medan du inte hann med.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"exmediatt-transcript__turn exmediatt-transcript__turn--speaker-04\">\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speaker\">Talare 4<\/p>\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speech\">\u2013 Idag var jag i rollen som utrustare, och min uppgift \u00e4r att utrusta farkosten s\u00e5 snabbt som m\u00f6jligt och f\u00f6rbereda den f\u00f6r stridsarbete. P\u00e5 ungef\u00e4r en till en minut och tjugo sekunder utrustade jag farkosten helt och gjorde den redo f\u00f6r stridsarbete. Det h\u00e4r \u00e4r v\u00e5r sting, det \u00e4r en dag-sting, men generellt arbetar vi med stingar och nattliga. \u2013 Det sv\u00e5raste i det h\u00e4r arbetet \u00e4r vindbyarna, eftersom det finns mindre av dessa medel. Om vi ungef\u00e4r kan flyga i femton minuter, sjutton minuter, s\u00e5 minskar det v\u00e5r effektivitet vid byig vind. \u2013<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"exmediatt-transcript__turn exmediatt-transcript__turn--speaker-01\">\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speaker\">Talare 1<\/p>\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speech\">Havet \u00e4r en helt annan specialitet, det har sina nyanser, principiella nyanser. Och om man till och med tar v\u00e4ldigt effektiva bes\u00e4ttningar nu, som har arbetat vid Sukhodol i ett \u00e5r, och de \u00e4r vana vid sina referenspunkter och allt s\u00e5nt annat, om man skulle s\u00e4tta in dessa bes\u00e4ttningar p\u00e5 denna position nu, skulle jag vara intresserad av att se vilket resultat de skulle visa. \u2013 En riktig utmaning<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"exmediatt-transcript__turn exmediatt-transcript__turn--speaker-03\">\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speaker\">Talare 3<\/p>\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speech\">s\u00e5 professionell, n\u00e5gonstans, f\u00f6r andra bes\u00e4ttningar att f\u00e5nga upp?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"exmediatt-transcript__turn exmediatt-transcript__turn--speaker-01\">\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speaker\">Talare 1<\/p>\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speech\">\u2013 Ja, det \u00e4r en professionell utmaning. Varf\u00f6r? F\u00f6r att n\u00e4r man arbetar p\u00e5 djupt vatten, utan att se n\u00e5gra referenspunkter, och arbetar uteslutande utifr\u00e5n radardata, \u00e4r det sv\u00e5rt att \u00f6verhuvudtaget orientera sig om var man befinner sig i rummet. \u2013 P\u00e5<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"exmediatt-transcript__turn exmediatt-transcript__turn--speaker-03\">\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speaker\">Talare 3<\/p>\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speech\">andra<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"exmediatt-transcript__turn exmediatt-transcript__turn--speaker-01\">\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speaker\">Talare 1<\/p>\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speech\">myans, s\u00e5 att fienden st\u00e4ndigt anv\u00e4nder olika taktiker, och h\u00e4r \u00e4r ingen dag den andra lik. Idag var det till exempel avfyringar d\u00e4r, andra bes\u00e4ttningar som \u00e4r stationerade l\u00e4ngre bort i ansvarsomr\u00e5det agerade. I v\u00e5r sektor \u00e4r det lugnt. \u00c4n s\u00e5 l\u00e4nge. Och det kanske inte kommer att vara lugnt, jag vet inte. Ingen vet. Vi f\u00e5r se.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"exmediatt-transcript__turn exmediatt-transcript__turn--speaker-03\">\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speaker\">Talare 3<\/p>\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speech\">\u2013 Och vad \u00e4r det bakom v\u00e4ggen nu? Ber\u00e4tta om listeria.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"exmediatt-transcript__turn exmediatt-transcript__turn--speaker-06\">\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speaker\">Talare 6<\/p>\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speech\">\u2013 Det \u00e4r en present fr\u00e5n bef\u00e4lhavaren f\u00f6r att jag utbildade mig. Mycket bra. Jag dr\u00f6mde om att g\u00e5 och g\u00f6ra tj\u00e4nst i arm\u00e9n, men min man f\u00f6rbj\u00f6d mig. Tyv\u00e4rr dog min man under 23. Jag var med honom i Pryncivka-riktningen. S\u00e5. Efter min man f\u00f6rbj\u00f6d min bror mig att g\u00f6ra tj\u00e4nst. Min bror dog ocks\u00e5. Jag gick \u00e4nd\u00e5 och gjorde tj\u00e4nst. Och jag blev faktiskt v\u00e4ldigt lycklig n\u00e4r jag gick och gjorde tj\u00e4nst. Depressionen f\u00f6rsvann direkt. Helt och h\u00e5llet.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"exmediatt-transcript__turn exmediatt-transcript__turn--speaker-01\">\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speaker\">Talare 1<\/p>\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speech\">Min praktik och vi samlar mitt tak. Vi tr\u00e4nade som bes\u00e4ttningar. Vi tog v\u00e5ra nedskjutningar. Vi gav helt enkelt en person dessa videor p\u00e5 ett USB-minne och sa, d\u00e4r \u00e4r det 20 nedskjutningar. Och ber\u00e4tta f\u00f6r mig vid vilken tidpunkt du s\u00e5g m\u00e5let. Och de kom med ett pappersark, en liten lapp, och de skrev ner. Fil s\u00e5n och s\u00e5n, h\u00e4r s\u00e5g vi det. Och sedan satt vi bredvid varandra och tittade p\u00e5 videon. Och jag s\u00e4ger, titta, h\u00e4r s\u00e5g du det vid 25 sekunder, hypotetiskt sett, i videon, eller i den andra minuten av flygningen. Men det var mycket tidigare. Allts\u00e5 var det redan i bild. Och p\u00e5 s\u00e5 s\u00e4tt engagerar sig personen, hen tr\u00e4nar sin hj\u00e4rna. Att se m\u00e5let. Det \u00e4r det viktigaste.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"exmediatt-transcript__turn exmediatt-transcript__turn--speaker-05\">\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speaker\">Talare 5<\/p>\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speech\">Klar?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"exmediatt-transcript__turn exmediatt-transcript__turn--speaker-03\">\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speaker\">Talare 3<\/p>\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speech\">Och den h\u00e4r musiken, n\u00e4r den slogs p\u00e5, v\u00e4drar ni alltid till musiken? Ja.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"exmediatt-transcript__turn exmediatt-transcript__turn--speaker-06\">\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speaker\">Talare 6<\/p>\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speech\">Vad var det? Bara en tunna.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"exmediatt-transcript__turn exmediatt-transcript__turn--speaker-03\">\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speaker\">Talare 3<\/p>\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speech\">\u00c4r det sv\u00e5rt att g\u00f6ra? Hur mycket beh\u00f6ver man tr\u00e4na f\u00f6r att g\u00f6ra s\u00e5nt?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"exmediatt-transcript__turn exmediatt-transcript__turn--speaker-06\">\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speaker\">Talare 6<\/p>\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speech\">Nej, det \u00e4r bara s\u00e5 mycket som \u00e5terbetalas, och det \u00e4r allt, och d\u00e5 blir det en tunna.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"exmediatt-transcript__turn exmediatt-transcript__turn--speaker-04\">\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speaker\">Talare 4<\/p>\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speech\">Vi f\u00f6rs\u00f6ker tr\u00e4na, n\u00e4rma oss m\u00e5let fr\u00e5n olika vinklar, s\u00e5 att de inte f\u00e5r m\u00f6jlighet att se v\u00e5ra interceptorer bakom sig.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"exmediatt-transcript__turn exmediatt-transcript__turn--speaker-01\">\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speaker\">Talare 1<\/p>\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speech\">Nu \u00e4r allt precis framf\u00f6r oss. Och i princip kan vi fatta beslut. Om det \u00e4r en jetdriven, kommer vi att flyga mot den ocks\u00e5, eftersom det finns ett alternativ. Vi pratar om en jetdriven Shahed, eller hur? Om en jetdriven Shahed. Vi kan ta ner den, eller hur? Det finns alternativ f\u00f6r att bek\u00e4mpa jetdrivna Shaheds. Jag s\u00e4ger inte att det \u00e4r hundra procent, s\u00e5 att kollegorna inte missf\u00f6rst\u00e5r oss. De uppvisar ocks\u00e5 [det]. Det finns gott om bevis p\u00e5 att jetdrivna Shaheds har skjutits ner med de medel som vi f\u00f6r n\u00e4rvarande har tillg\u00e5ng till. Som exempel, om man inte filmar detta, s\u00e5 har vi ett medel fr\u00e5n en av tillverkarna, Pionsan, som har ett system f\u00f6r terminalstyrning.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"exmediatt-transcript__turn exmediatt-transcript__turn--speaker-05\">\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speaker\">Talare 5<\/p>\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speech\">Fr\u00e5n tid till tid, vet du, h\u00f6rs kommentarer. Vanligtvis h\u00e4nder det efter att n\u00e5got \u00e4nd\u00e5 har kommit igenom, flugit genom f\u00f6rsvarslinjen, och n\u00e5gon Shahed har tr\u00e4ffat, och s\u00e5 vidare. Tyv\u00e4rr h\u00e4nder det \u00e4nd\u00e5. Om att, typ, ja, men var \u00e4r v\u00e5rt luftf\u00f6rsvar? Eller var \u00e4r v\u00e5ra interceptorer? Det finns redan m\u00e5nga av dem, s\u00e5 varf\u00f6r kommer de fram? Vad skulle man svara p\u00e5 s\u00e5dana kommentarer?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"exmediatt-transcript__turn exmediatt-transcript__turn--speaker-01\">\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speaker\">Talare 1<\/p>\n<p class=\"exmediatt-transcript__speech\">Det \u00e4r alltid, \u00e5terigen, ska jag p\u00e5minna, en katt-och-mus-lek. Taktik, byte av taktik. M\u00e5let kan g\u00e5 f\u00f6r h\u00f6gt eller f\u00f6r l\u00e5gt. 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