{"id":5931,"date":"2022-02-24T09:03:06","date_gmt":"2022-02-24T08:03:06","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/johanno1.se\/2022-02-24\/"},"modified":"2022-02-24T09:03:06","modified_gmt":"2022-02-24T08:03:06","slug":"2022-02-24","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/johanno1.se\/sv\/2022-02-24\/","title":{"rendered":"2022-02-24"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-1\">\n<h3>09:03<\/h3>\n<p>Ja Nordstream var en bra sanktion och att f\u00f6rhindra ryska fartyg genom sundet skulle vara fint.<\/p>\n<p>Dock sv\u00e5rt att uppr\u00e4tth\u00e5lla f\u00f6r Ryssland torde r\u00e4tt snabbt flytta krigsfartyg dit och hota med extra allt.<\/p>\n<p>Oligarkernas tillg\u00e5ngar utanf\u00f6r Ryssland ryker v\u00e4l men jag undrar hur pass seri\u00f6s man \u00e4r d\u00e4r?<br \/>\nRimligen b\u00f6r ju varenda Oligark f\u00e5r sina tillg\u00e5ngar frysta men verkar vara n\u00e5got tiotal.<\/p>\n<p>Ryssland v\u00e4nder sig s\u00e5klart mot Kina men om dom blir svartepetter i denna l\u00e5gkonjunktur som v\u00e4l USA jobbar mot blir dom inte mycket till hj\u00e4lp.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-0\">\n<h2>09:17<\/h2>\n<p>Ja n\u00e4r det blir tyst \u00e4r det inte f\u00f6r att det \u00e4r lugnt. Hittar inte heller mycket nytt.<\/p>\n<p>Har ryska b\u00f6rsen eller index innan \u00f6ppning g\u00e5tt ned 34%?<br \/>\nDet talar v\u00e4l oceaner om vad ryssland anser om detta krig?<\/p>\n<p>\u00c4ven d\u00e5 detta var seklets mest f\u00f6rv\u00e4ntade invasion trodde iallafall jag att Putin hade n\u00e5gon dubbelbluff eller dolt syfte.<br \/>\nAtt g\u00e5 all in och f\u00f6rs\u00f6ka ta \u00f6ver hela Ukraina \u00e4r vansinne.<br \/>\nSlutar det med att han er\u00f6vrar Ukraina \u00f6ster om Dnepr och backar tillbaka fr\u00e5n v\u00e4stra Ukraina \u00e4r det v\u00e4l n\u00e5gon typ av rimligt m\u00e5l.<\/p>\n<p>Ukrainarna \u00e4r ju inte dummare \u00e4n att dom kommer sl\u00e5ss f\u00f6r varje meter och hoppas p\u00e5 rysk f\u00f6rlust eller v\u00e4stlig intervention. R\u00e4cker v\u00e4l med att det blir f\u00f6r stora civila f\u00f6rluster s\u00e5 att v\u00e4st har ett &#8221;casus belli&#8221; att etablera dominans i luften och stoppa invasionen \u00f6ver ett par dagar genom att bl\u00e5sa bort allt ryskt som r\u00f6r sig p\u00e5 marken.<\/p>\n<p>Tror personligen att dessa termobariska vapen \u00e4r lite av putins ess i rock\u00e4rmen och att det \u00e4r d\u00e4rf\u00f6r dom g\u00e5tt direkt p\u00e5 markinvasion och ingen egentlig f\u00f6rberk\u00e4mpning d\u00e5 dom kan f\u00e5 stor effekt p\u00e5 fasta f\u00f6rsvarsst\u00e4llningar och att man kan bryta igenom f\u00f6rsta ringen av f\u00f6rsvar relativt fort.<\/p>\n<p>Avg\u00f6randet blir v\u00e4l strid p\u00e5 djupet och hur motiverade Ukrainarna \u00e4r men dom torde ha f\u00f6rberett sig p\u00e5 strid i plutonsstyrka med antitankvapen \u00f6ver hela ytan samt f\u00f6rsvar av st\u00e4derna som kommer bli sk1tsv\u00e5ra att invadera.<\/p>\n<p>Rimligen b\u00f6r det ta tv\u00e4rstopp efter ett par dagars ryskt avancemang?<\/p>\n<p>D\u00e4refter vill iallafall jag se Ukraina in i EU och NATO samt Sveriges och Finlands NATO medlemskap.<br \/>\nDet borde vara en ickefr\u00e5ga.<\/p>\n<p>Tar Ukraina denna sm\u00e4ll f\u00f6r laget \u00e4r fanken det minsta man kan g\u00f6ra att  v\u00e4lkomna dom in i g\u00e4nget.<br \/>\nSen \u00e4r dom ett otroligt rikt land som med lite v\u00e4stlig hj\u00e4lp kan bli v\u00e4lm\u00e5ende.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-1\">\n<h3>09:21<\/h3>\n<p>K\u00e4rnvapnen \u00e4r v\u00e4l det som \u00e4r lite oroande.<\/p>\n<p>Jag sa till min fru att nu s\u00e4tter vi in alla sanktioner, yes.<\/p>\n<p>Hon svarade &#8211; idiotiskt f\u00f6r d\u00e5 har dom inget att f\u00f6rlora l\u00e4ngre.<\/p>\n<p>Stegen var ju &#8211; en del sanktioner f\u00f6r erk\u00e4nnandet av Donbass och fulla sanktioner vid invasion och d\u00e5 kan Ryssland fortfarande \u00f6ka med k\u00e4rnvapen.<\/p>\n<p>Vad har v\u00e4st mer som skulle vara avh\u00e5llande?<\/p>\n<p>Man kan v\u00e4l hoppas att USA smugit in Patriot som t\u00e4cker hela Ukraina men k\u00e4rnvapen kan ju levereras p\u00e5 marken ocks\u00e5.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-0\">\n<h2>09:43<\/h2>\n<p>En reflektion,<\/p>\n<p>All information som finns om f\u00f6rbek\u00e4mpningen tycker jag visar p\u00e5 &#8221;spridda skurar&#8221; snarare \u00e4n en traditionell rysk f\u00f6rbek\u00e4mpning d\u00e4r man utpl\u00e5nar kilometerrutor p\u00e5 kartan.<\/p>\n<p>De filmer som finns visar n\u00e5n r\u00f6kpelare h\u00e4r och d\u00e4r och jag minns ju n\u00e4r desert shield drog ig\u00e5ng s\u00e5 var det intensivare.<\/p>\n<p>Om nu Ryssland har mobiliserat allt i artilleriv\u00e4g varf\u00f6r har man inte bara avfyrat allt?<\/p>\n<p>Det ligger i Ukrainas intresse att f\u00e5 ut s\u00e5 mycket medial uppm\u00e4rksamhet som m\u00f6jligt av den ryska invasionen s\u00e5 hade det varit kraftig f\u00f6rbek\u00e4mpning borde det kommit fram?<\/p>\n<p>Eller \u00e4r det som du skriver att just nu \u00e4r det total telekrigf\u00f6ring och vi f\u00e5r helt enkelt ingen information?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-0\">\n<h2>10:18<\/h2>\n<p>Din 10:07 post, mycket gl\u00e4djande \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n<p>Kan Ukraina f\u00e5 stopp p\u00e5 invasionen helt p\u00e5 egen hand har dom nog r\u00e4ddat v\u00e4rlden fr\u00e5n ett storkrig.<\/p>\n<p>Det finns inget USA att skylla p\u00e5, bara Putins och hans anhangs inkompetens som st\u00f6rtat Ryssland ned i avgrunden och vi kanske f\u00e5r se en v\u00e4beh\u00f6vlig folklig resning i Ryssland.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-1\">\n<h3>10:19<\/h3>\n<p>Ja en prioritet f\u00f6r Ukraina b\u00f6r vara att f\u00e5 maximal medial uppm\u00e4rksamhet.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-0\">\n<h2>11:21<\/h2>\n<p>Om jag f\u00f6rst\u00e5r detta r\u00e4tt s\u00e5 har det ryska anfallet mot Kharkiv n\u00e4stintill k\u00f6rt fast \u00f6ster och norr om staden.<\/p>\n<p>I Luhansk och Donetsk har rebellerna b\u00f6rjat framrycka till fots \u00e5t v\u00e4ster och dom l\u00e4r inte komma l\u00e5ngt.<\/p>\n<p>Rysk f\u00f6rbek\u00e4mpning var ett sm\u00e4rre sk\u00e4mt.<\/p>\n<p>Det intryck jag f\u00e5r \u00e4r ett halvdant f\u00f6rs\u00f6k till invasion?<br \/>\nGer mig lite Hitler vibbar n\u00e4r han satt i sin bunker och beordrade fram divisioner att anfalla som fanns p\u00e5 papperet men i sj\u00e4lva verket bestod av n\u00e5gra hundra man.<\/p>\n<p>Har det g\u00e5tt s\u00e5 l\u00e5ngt att alla i Ryssland f\u00f6ljer med i denna charad fullt vetandes att det kommer misslyckas?<br \/>\nPutin s\u00e4ger &#8211; sl\u00e4pp l\u00f6s Iskandermolnet.<br \/>\nMan skjuter sina 50 Iskander mot m\u00e5l man lottat fram genom t\u00e4rning, lutar sig tillbaka och s\u00e4ger att man gjort sitt?<\/p>\n<p>Om nu Ryssland drar p\u00e5 sig ekonomisk ruin f\u00f6r detta sk\u00e4mt till invasion \u00e4r ju ledningen helt bortkopplad fr\u00e5n verkligheten.<\/p>\n<p>Har nog inte riktigt litat p\u00e5 Cornus h\u00e4cklande beskrivningar av hur pass d\u00e5lig den ryska armen och Ryssland \u00e4r men det verkar st\u00e4mma.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-0\">\n<h2>11:28<\/h2>\n<p>\u00c4r det n\u00e5gon som h\u00f6rt fr\u00e5n Putin?<\/p>\n<p>Eftersom talet var f\u00f6rinspelat hade han ett par dagar p\u00e5 sig att g\u00f6ra det han planerat, vad var det?<\/p>\n<p>Sitter han nu i en bunker med v\u00e4lbetald spetznazbrigad som f\u00e5tt ett par mnkr var p\u00e5 bank i Bern?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-2\">\n<h4>11:30<\/h4>\n<p>Ja en blockad av ryska fartyg f\u00f6rbi Danmark torde bita&#8230;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-0\">\n<h2>11:47<\/h2>\n<p>Nu b\u00f6rjar det komma upp mycket videos med rullande ryskt pansar och ortsnamn fr\u00e5n olika twitterkonton.<br \/>\nTyp n\u00e5n liten h\u00e5la 25km innanf\u00f6r Ukrainas gr\u00e4ns och full fart p\u00e5 fordonen.<\/p>\n<p>Hur l\u00e5ngt in fr\u00e5n gr\u00e4nsen ligger\/l\u00e5g Ukrainas f\u00f6rsta f\u00f6rsvarslinje kan man gissa, det b\u00f6r v\u00e4l g\u00e5 att diskutera nu n\u00e4r ryssarna k\u00f6rt in i den?<\/p>\n<p>Fr\u00e5gan \u00e4r v\u00e4l om dessa filmade framryckningar \u00e4r f\u00f6r att man har slagit igenom Ukrainskt f\u00f6rsvar p\u00e5 dom punkterna eller om det \u00e4r innan man k\u00f6rt in\/fast i det.<\/p>\n<p>Ukraina b\u00f6r ocks\u00e5 ha fokuserat p\u00e5 vissa omr\u00e5den och l\u00e4ttare f\u00f6rsvar p\u00e5 andra men i tex. Kharkiv verkar det ju st\u00e5 h\u00e5rda strider redan utanf\u00f6r staden.<\/p>\n<p>Om n\u00e5gon har en l\u00e4nk till en karta som visar rysk framryckning f\u00e5r ni g\u00e4rna posta den i tr\u00e5den.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-1\">\n<h3>12:07<\/h3>\n<p>Verkar som ryska f\u00f6rband n\u00e5tt fram till Dnepr l\u00e4ngst i s\u00f6der, Nova Kakhovka.<\/p>\n<p>Kharkov \u00e4r det stopp.<\/p>\n<p>Hur ser det ut \u00f6ster och v\u00e4ster om Kharkov, finns inget postat vad jag kan hitta?<\/p>\n<p>Ett m\u00f6jligt problem skulle kunna vara att Ukraina h\u00e5ller st\u00e4der som \u00f6ar och att Ryssland lyckas ta fram till Dnepr vilket kanske demoraliserar f\u00f6rbanden \u00f6ster om Dnepr.<\/p>\n<p>Dock s\u00e5 \u00e4r dessa \u00f6ar ypperliga f\u00f6r ett f\u00f6rsvar p\u00e5 djupet f\u00f6r ukraina och dom har som sagt haft \u00e5r p\u00e5 sig att f\u00f6rbereda.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-1\">\n<h3>12:10<\/h3>\n<p>Verkar som ryska f\u00f6rband rullar \u00f6ver Dnepr mot Kherson i en m\u00e4rklig blandning av fordon?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-0\">\n<h2>12:21<\/h2>\n<p>Cornu &#8211; <\/p>\n<p>Ryska f\u00f6rband verkar ha rullat \u00f6ver Dnepr vid Kherson tycker jag filmer visar?<br \/>\nSen har du potentiell luftlands\u00e4ttning strax v\u00e4ster om Kiev.<\/p>\n<p>I \u00f6stra ukraina finns det egentligen ingen information om hur framryckningen g\u00e5r \u00f6ster och v\u00e4ster om Kharkiv men i staden Kharkiv verkar f\u00f6rsvaret fungera v\u00e4l.<\/p>\n<p>P\u00e5g\u00e5r framryckning mot Malitopol men inget fr\u00e5n Mauriopol eller landstigningar vad som finns beskrivet.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-0\">\n<h2>12:38<\/h2>\n<p>Fr\u00e5gan \u00e4r v\u00e4l hur f\u00f6rsvaret av \u00f6stra Ukraina ser ut?<\/p>\n<p>Rullar ryssarna f\u00f6rbi Kharkov mot Dnepr \u00e4r det ett problem men har dom k\u00f6rt fast l\u00e4ngs hela linjen i h\u00f6jd med Kharkov \u00e4r ju Putins kvarvarande livsl\u00e4ngd som en dagsl\u00e4ndas.<\/p>\n<p>Har Ukraina kraftsamlat allt till Kharkov eller finns det punch p\u00e5 andra st\u00e4llen?<br \/>\nDnipro ser ut som en given igelkott men oroande att ryssarna korsat Dnepr vid Kherson.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-0\">\n<h2>13:09<\/h2>\n<p>Vid luftlands\u00e4ttningen mot Hostomel fl\u00f6g helikoptrarna relativt oansvarigt.<br \/>\nDet b\u00f6r betyda att Ryssland har luftherrav\u00e4lde och att ukrainas AA kapacitet \u00e4r l\u00e5g?<br \/>\nBet\u00e4nk h\u00e4r att detta var 15 minuter fr\u00e5n Kiev och prioriterat omr\u00e5de.<\/p>\n<p>Vild gissning \u00e4r att vi kommer f\u00e5 se fler VDV lands\u00e4ttningar bakom ukrainska linjer under dagen speciellt i \u00f6stra ukraina som torde ha mindre jaktflyg och AA.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-0\">\n<h2>13:12<\/h2>\n<p>Nu \u00e4r jag ju en extremt glad amat\u00f6r \ud83d\ude42 men tyckte att dom kunde flugit l\u00e4gre och fortare.<\/p>\n<p>Det jaktflyg som har filmats \u00f6ver Kiev, vet du om det var ukrainskt eller ryskt?<\/p>\n<p>H\u00f6g risk som du skrev att luftlands\u00e4tta \u00e4nda nere vid Kiev om man inte f\u00e5r framdrivning p\u00e5 pansaret inom rimlig tid.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>09:03 Ja Nordstream var en bra sanktion och att f\u00f6rhindra ryska fartyg genom sundet skulle vara fint. 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