{"id":6277,"date":"2022-06-20T09:20:15","date_gmt":"2022-06-20T07:20:15","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/johanno1.se\/2022-06-20\/"},"modified":"2022-06-20T09:20:15","modified_gmt":"2022-06-20T07:20:15","slug":"2022-06-20","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/johanno1.se\/sv\/2022-06-20\/","title":{"rendered":"2022-06-20"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-0\">\n<h2>09:59<\/h2>\n<p>Om man f\u00e5r gissa s\u00e5 kommer l\u00f6sningen p\u00e5 kommande l\u00e5gkonjunktur, huspriskrasch, arbetsl\u00f6shet, snordyr el, allm\u00e4n oro och vad mer vara att Ukraina ger Donbass och Krim till Ryssland. Det h\u00e4r kommer bli en v\u00e4lkoordinerad Kremlsk PR kampanj som v\u00e4stlig media lojalt \u00e5terger i vanlig ordning. Trycket kommer nog \u00f6ka p\u00e5 Zelensky, trojkan skall ju s\u00e5 sm\u00e5ningom hota med indraget EU medlemskap n\u00e4r det b\u00f6rjar g\u00e5 f\u00f6r bra.<br \/>\nDet \u00e4r v\u00e4l tur att vi har den fria v\u00e4rldens f\u00f6rsvarare USA och UK som g\u00f6r det dom alltid gjort sedan Napoleonkrigen och k\u00f6r whack a mole med skurkdiktaturerna och sen fyller p\u00e5 LNG lagren fr\u00e5n USA ist\u00e4llet.<br \/>\n\u2014<br \/>\nJu l\u00e4ngre vi kommer ju tydligare blir det ju att Ryssland f\u00e5r man isolera bakom NATO och sen ha i ett koppel av sanktioner s\u00e5 dom inte kan g\u00e5 till krig igen annat \u00e4n med human wave Tannenberg style. Ryssland \u00e4r ju verkligen psykopaten som n\u00e4r han fick chansen visade sig inte ha n\u00e5gra h\u00e4mningar alls och som eskalerar sin v\u00e5ldsspiral tills det tar stopp, det enda som saknas \u00e4r v\u00e4l skalper och \u00f6ron i ett halsband. S\u00e4ger man annat har man dolda motiv till det, ekonomiska eller geopolitiska eller till och med ideologiska och d\u00e5 beh\u00f6ver man l\u00e4sa om Norrlandskommunisternas resa till paradiset i Sovjet f\u00f6r en kalibrering.<br \/>\n\u2014<br \/>\nRyssland har ju alltid behandlat sm\u00e5 l\u00e4nder i sin n\u00e4rhet p\u00e5 det h\u00e4r s\u00e4ttet om det har beh\u00f6vts. B\u00e4sta scenariot har ju varit att vara en r\u00e5varukoloni \u00e5t sovjet\/ryssland och att etniska ryssar f\u00e5r g\u00f6ra som dom vill. Det finns nog en anledning att \u00f6stra europa ger stridsvagnar och flyg till Ukraina \u00e4ven d\u00e5 NATO har en \u00f6verenskommelse om att inte g\u00f6ra det och att dess regeringar gett Zelensky sitt oreserverade st\u00f6d, dom har upplevt Sovjet. Nu uppv\u00e4ger det positiva det negativa och det hade kunnat vara o\u00e4ndligt mycket v\u00e4rre idag med Ukrainsk kapitulation och ryskt fokus p\u00e5 andra l\u00e4nder och ett Balkan som svurit sin trohet till Putin. Vi har snudd p\u00e5 ett b\u00e4sta-scenario h\u00e4r.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-1\">\n<h3>10:14<\/h3>\n<p>\u00d6steruropa har startat sin ammunitionsproduktion och var n\u00e5n artikel om att USA hade gamla fabriker f\u00f6r \u00f6ststatsammunition som dom tagit ur malp\u00e5se. Polen skall nytillverka KRAB till Ukraina och jag tycker jag har l\u00e4st att Polen licenstillverkar Koreanska K stridsvagnar som Ukraina har best\u00e4llt, dom har ocks\u00e5 best\u00e4llt IFV eller Ptgbil. Jag kan inte g\u00e5 ed p\u00e5 det, \u00e4r n\u00e5got som flugit f\u00f6rbi.<br \/>\nJo det \u00e4r nog en gemensam insats h\u00e4r ut\u00f6ver \u00f6verskottsmateriel men USA har r\u00e4tt v\u00e4lfyllda lador \u00e4nd\u00e5 och kan nog ge ett bra tag innan det tar slut.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-0\">\n<h2>10:16<\/h2>\n<p>H\u00e4r har ni ett tungt sk\u00e4l att Ukraina skickar HIMARS till Khersonfronten omg\u00e5ende f\u00f6r att sl\u00e5 ut luftv\u00e4rnet.<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.ukrinform.net\/rubric-ato\/3510537-russians-assaulting-sievierodonetsk-building-up-air-defense-in-kherson-region.html\" rel=\"nofollow ugc\">https:\/\/www.ukrinform.net\/rubric-ato\/3510537-russians-assaulting-sievierodonetsk-building-up-air-defense-in-kherson-region.html<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-0\">\n<h2>11:40<\/h2>\n<p>Verkar vara mer som p\u00e5g\u00e5r mellan Kazakstan \u2013 Ryssen, nedan fr\u00e5n proryskt forum,<br \/>\n\u201dRussia imposed restrictions on the shipment of Kazakh oil in response to Kazakhstan blocking 1,700 Russian wagons with coal<br \/>\nIt is reported that coal remained in Kazakhstan due to European anti-Russian sanctions. In turn, oil from the republic was exported to Europe through the port of Novorossiysk, in which mines from the times of the Great Patriotic War were suddenly discovered. The decontamination works will last at least until the end of the month\u201d.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-1\">\n<h3>11:46<\/h3>\n<p>Det finns ammunition till artilleri (\u00e4r det v\u00e4l?) som sprider minor \u00f6ver ett omr\u00e5de, dom \u00f6ppnar upp p\u00e5 en h\u00f6jd.<br \/>\nEtt perfekt vapen mot luftlands\u00e4ttningar eller landstigningar men jag tror argumentet \u00e4r att d\u00e5 har man minerat mark i Sverige vilket \u00e4r d\u00e5ligt f\u00f6r Sverige. Sen har du ARAK som man kunde anv\u00e4nda mot ub\u00e5ter som ersattes av ELMA som var framtaget f\u00f6r att tvinga upp en ub\u00e5t inte sl\u00e5 ut den vilket var en trist f\u00f6rm\u00e5ges\u00e4nkning.<br \/>\nVi har v\u00e4l dessutom \u00f6vertolkat alla robot och missilavtal och v\u00e4l ingenting av det senare f\u00f6r att inte provocera ryssen. \u00c4r mer \u00e4n lovligt tr\u00f6tt p\u00e5 det nu n\u00e4r dom har dragit ig\u00e5ng ett krig \u00e4ven fast resten av v\u00e4rlden har tassat runt med tjocka tofflor och strukit dom medh\u00e5rs.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-0\">\n<h2>13:01<\/h2>\n<p>Han Kazakstans president Tokayev som helt \u00e4gde Putin i m\u00f6tet i St Petersburg, hur v\u00e5gade han?<br \/>\nDet \u00e4r ju p\u00e5 ryskt territorium och Ryssland sj\u00e4lvm\u00f6rdar ju olikt\u00e4nkande varje dag.<br \/>\n\u2014<br \/>\nTog mig en titt p\u00e5 kartan och g\u00e5r Kazakstan, Georgia, Azerbadjan, Finland och Sverige med i NATO \u00e4r Ryssland helt inkapslat i NATO l\u00e4nder och f\u00e5r b\u00f6rjar f\u00f6ra krig mot Mongoliet eller Kina om andan faller p\u00e5. Det \u00e4r en smart plan USA haft och Tokayevs sm\u00e5tt spektakul\u00e4ra uttal m\u00e5ste ju gjorts i vetskapen att dom snart \u00e4r on\u00e5bara f\u00f6r ryssen f\u00f6r Putin k\u00e4nns inte som killen som f\u00f6rl\u00e5ter i f\u00f6rsta taget och Tjetjenien \u00e4r ju d\u00e4r f\u00f6r alla att se hur en rysk straffexpedition g\u00e5r till. Alla de andra -stans som ligger s\u00f6der om Kazakstan blir ju oviktiga om dom g\u00e5r med.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-1\">\n<h3>15:04<\/h3>\n<p>Har t\u00e4nkt en del p\u00e5 det h\u00e4r men samtidigt som Ryssarnas VDV, Spetznaz, Spaning, Marininfanteri och Wagner blivit rej\u00e4lt decimerade s\u00e5 \u00e4r ju ukrainas SOF (brett begrepp f\u00f6r alla som kan f\u00f6ra fria kriget) nu en veritabel j\u00e4tte.<br \/>\nDet m\u00e5ste ju fullst\u00e4ndigt sv\u00e4rma av SOF \u00f6verallt utom i Donbass proper som nog \u00e4r lite sv\u00e5rjobbat \u00e4n s\u00e5 l\u00e4nge.<br \/>\nDet b\u00f6rjar s\u00e5 sm\u00e5tt sprida sig en Vietnam style r\u00e4dsla f\u00f6r m\u00f6rkret hos de ryska f\u00f6rbanden i takt med att denna arme av SOF f\u00e5r schyssta m\u00f6rkerstridsmedel och vampyranpassar sig till att sova p\u00e5 dagen och jaga p\u00e5 natten.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-0\">\n<h2>18:22<\/h2>\n<p>Jag tror att DefMon fr\u00e5n Str\u00e4ngn\u00e4s har markerat ryska f\u00f6rband som omgrupperar fr\u00e5n omr\u00e5det norr om Khakovka \u00f6ver till Kherson, en stor r\u00f6d pil. St\u00e4mmer det har man f\u00e5tt v\u00e4lja vad man skall f\u00f6rsvara och man har valt Kherson.<br \/>\nDet \u00e4r ocks\u00e5 twitter om en motoffensiv av Ryssarna vid Kherson (nu n\u00e4r dom \u00e4r f\u00f6rsvarare) och den g\u00e5r v\u00e4l som vanligt.<br \/>\n\u2014<br \/>\nDet kan faktiskt ocks\u00e5 t\u00e4nkas att man har tvingats f\u00f6rsvara Kherson p\u00e5 bekostnad av s\u00f6dra fronten och inget vore ju roligare \u00e4n om Ukraina br\u00f6t igenom d\u00e4r och sk\u00f6t iv\u00e4g som ett spjut ned till Melitopol. Tolkar man FIRMS som bibeln \u00e4r det lugnt just nu vid s\u00f6dra fronten men allt som d\u00f6r brinner ju inte f\u00f6rutom en ryss full av hembr\u00e4nt kanske.<br \/>\nDet \u00e4r hur som helst aktivitet vid s\u00f6dra fronten f\u00f6r Zaporoznye (beteckning f\u00f6r s\u00f6dra fronten) kommer upp dagligen i rapporteringen.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-1\">\n<h3>19:02<\/h3>\n<p>F\u00f6r att citera ett popul\u00e4rt spel \u2013 pl\u00f6stligt h\u00e4nder det.<br \/>\nS\u00f6dra fronten m\u00e5ste man nog hacka iv\u00e4g p\u00e5 ett tag innan man kan f\u00e5 framdrivning, ryssen har ju byggt 2 och 3 f\u00f6rsvarslinjerna nu. Jag hade nog sett framf\u00f6r mig nattanfall i st\u00f6rre skala \u00e4n vad vi f\u00e5tt se men s\u00e5 blev det ju inte.<br \/>\nJag t\u00e4nkte ocks\u00e5 att man skulle kunna rulla upp med sina artilleribrigader redan men dom sl\u00e5r ju \u00e4n s\u00e5 l\u00e4ngre mot bakre och artilleriet och nu skall dom v\u00e4l sl\u00e5 mot luftv\u00e4rnet vid Kherson ocks\u00e5.<br \/>\n\u2014<br \/>\nDel i ekvationen \u00e4r ju planen men sen brukar ju verkligheten knacka p\u00e5, fr\u00e5ga Putin \ud83d\ude42<br \/>\nKan Ukraina l\u00e5sa broarna vid Dnepr och sen anfalla vid s\u00f6dra fronten g\u00e5r det inte att g\u00f6ra en taktisk retr\u00e4tt fr\u00e5n Kherson. Men det kan ju lika g\u00e4rna bli s\u00e5 att ryssen blir orolig \u00f6ver Kherson och f\u00f6rsvagar s\u00f6dra fronten f\u00f6r mycket och Ukraina lyckas sl\u00e5 upp ett h\u00e5l d\u00e4r. Vi vet faktiskt att densiteten p\u00e5 ryska f\u00f6rband \u00e4r l\u00e5g vid S\u00f6dra fronten och att det fullkomligt kokar av stay behind och SOF i bakre.<br \/>\n\u2014<br \/>\nJa det blir ett schackdrag.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-1\">\n<h3>19:06<\/h3>\n<p>Jag tycker det \u00e4r tr\u00e5kigt att den fria v\u00e4rldens \u00f6stra gr\u00e4ns har f\u00e5tt klara sig b\u00e4st dom kan alla dessa \u00e5r.<br \/>\nDom rustar ju halvt s\u00f6nder sig men kan \u00e4nd\u00e5 inte f\u00e5 n\u00e5got som matchar Ryssland (egentligen fel d\u00e5 Ryssen \u00e4r vad vi sett i Ukraina). NATO borde solidariskt ha rustat upp dessa l\u00e4nder f\u00f6r m\u00e5nga \u00e5r sedan, inte bara stationerat f\u00f6rband fr\u00e5n andra l\u00e4nder d\u00e4r. F35 eller Gripen borde bli standardflyget, ut med all \u00f6stlig materiel osv.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-0\">\n<h2>00:01<\/h2>\n<p>H\u00f6gst obekr\u00e4ftat, allts\u00e5 stor j\u00e4dra nypa salt men det skulle finnas VDV i svarta havsflottan s\u00e5 viss landstigningskapacitet med marines f\u00e5r man f\u00f6rmoda och enligt allas v\u00e5r CanadianUkraininan \u00e4r det en straffexpedition p\u00e5 v\u00e4g till Odessa efter att Ukraina bl\u00e5st rent p\u00e5 Snake Island. Det l\u00e5ter n\u00e4stan f\u00f6r bra f\u00f6r att vara sant s\u00e5 h\u00e4r i tider av Harpoon och som sagt h\u00f6gst obekr\u00e4ftat.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-1\">\n<h3>00:06<\/h3>\n<p>Gl\u00f6mde skriva att jag utg\u00e5r ifr\u00e5n att jag \u00e4r tv\u00e5a p\u00e5 den bollen. 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