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11:34<\/h3>\n

Den d\u00e4r \u00e4r b\u00e4st, det var lite som n\u00e4r The D skulle satsa p\u00e5 presidentvalet igen och rysk TV hyllade honom som ryssland b\u00e4sta v\u00e4n \u2013 s\u00e4mre publicitet f\u00e5r man ju leta efter.
\n\u2014
\nDet AI m\u00e5ste f\u00f6rst\u00e5 \u00e4r att det \u00e4r hur rapportj\u00e4veln tolkas och utnyttjas i PR syfte som \u00e4r det kritiska inte vad ett syfte med den var. I vanliga fall kan man kanske slippa undan med det men inte n\u00e4r man skuldbel\u00e4gger ett offer p\u00e5 det h\u00e4r s\u00e4ttet och under r\u00e5dande omst\u00e4ndigheter.
\n\u2014
\nV\u00e4ntar fortfarande p\u00e5 en full pudel och att man skickar n\u00e5n miljard till fonden f\u00f6r att rehabilitera traumatiserade ukrainska barn.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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11:46<\/h3>\n

Jag snokade runt p\u00e5 deras hemsida och jag tror inte dom har f\u00f6rst\u00e5tt vidden av detta \u00e4nnu faktiskt.
\nDom har ju en stor organisation och m\u00e5nga j\u00e4rn i elden, i stort sett alla behj\u00e4rtansv\u00e4rda, men just h\u00e4r gick dom helt fel.
\n\u2014
\nHittade denna p\u00e5 A sverige och fram tills sista tv\u00e5 paragraferna \u00e4r det ok men dom f\u00f6rst\u00e5r fortfarande inte att dom skuldbelagt offret och att dom glidit iv\u00e4g l\u00e5ngt ifr\u00e5n det rimliga.
\nSen \u00e4r det ett f\u00f6rs\u00f6k till friskrivning att den inte tolkats som avsett men det \u00c4R amnestys ansvar, ingen annans, f\u00f6r dom har ju skrivit rapporten, eller pressmedelandet\u2026
\nhttps:\/\/www.amnesty.se\/aktuellt\/brev-om-ukraina-till-vara-medlemmar-och-supporters\/<\/a>
\n\u2014
\nDet h\u00e4r blev en riktigt rej\u00e4l krock med verkligheten och realpolitik f\u00f6r amnesty och dessv\u00e4rre \u00e4r det s\u00e5 att ju l\u00e4ngre dom tar p\u00e5 sig att pudla ju st\u00f6rre blir skadan f\u00f6r dom h\u00e4r, finns inget mellanl\u00e4ge.
\nHon researchern i Finland skall antingen ta fullt avst\u00e5nd fr\u00e5n Ryssland eller avg\u00e5.
\nGD skall avg\u00e5.
\nPudla och skicka en enorm donation till Ukraina och hylla A Ukrainakontor oreserverat.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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11:58<\/h2>\n

Dom f\u00e5r nog se till att vara snabba f\u00f6r d\u00f6ds-tortyren i f\u00e4ngelserna har man ju toppat med att br\u00e4nna upp tiotals av dom i grupp, hur m\u00e5nga finns det egentligen kvar att lagf\u00f6ra h\u00e4r?
\nDet \u00e4r ju inte l\u00e4tt f\u00f6r en Azovstalf\u00f6rsvarare som blivit b\u00e5de kastrerad och f\u00e5tt kn\u00e4na krossade att ta sig in till r\u00e4tteg\u00e5ngen p\u00e5 ett v\u00e4rdigt s\u00e4tt s\u00e5 det skulle g\u00f6ra sig p\u00e5 kamerorna.
\n\u2014
\nJag har aldrig f\u00f6rst\u00e5tt vidden av hur det var att leva i Sovjet men nu f\u00f6rst\u00e5r jag det. Det kan inte finnas en normalt fungerande m\u00e4nniska i v\u00e4st som skulle tycka att Rysk-fred \u00e4r ett alternativ. Tycker dom det kan dom v\u00e4l g\u00f6ra samma resa som Norrlandskommunisterna gjorde p\u00e5 30-talet och f\u00e5 uppleva dr\u00f6msamh\u00e4llet p\u00e5 plats.
\nDet jag tog med mig fr\u00e5n den d\u00e4r boken man skulle l\u00e4sa var lusrummet, en liten kub som hade specialpreparerats med l\u00f6ss och d\u00e4r fick man sitta i n\u00e5gra dagar och bli s\u00f6nderbiten. Det har ju v\u00e5r tids ryska nazister toppat flera g\u00e5nger om h\u00e4r.
\n\u2014
\nDet \u00e4r som en d\u00f6dskult som sp\u00e5rar ur allt snabbare med de v\u00e4rsta av \u00f6vegrepp. Fanns v\u00e4l ett par hundra kvinnor bland Azovstal-f\u00e5ngarna och kommer m\u00e4nnen tillbaka d\u00f6da eller i b\u00e4sta fall kastrerade och med krossade kn\u00e4n v\u00e5gar man ju knappt gissa skicket p\u00e5 dom. Det \u00e4r allts\u00e5 m\u00e5nader som g\u00e5tt nu utan att FN och RK har brytt sig om att garantera deras s\u00e4kerhet som dom skrev under p\u00e5. Hon gravida kvinnan som satt i filtreringsl\u00e4gret till exempel, vad \u00e4r gr\u00e4nsen f\u00f6r n\u00e4r FN och RK faktiskt b\u00f6rjar g\u00f6ra sitt jobb h\u00e4r?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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11:59<\/h3>\n

Skulle ju vara ett svar till Erik14 tv\u00e5 inl\u00e4gg ovan..<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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14:12<\/h3>\n

Nu har jag f\u00f6r omv\u00e4xlings skull faktiskt lyssnat p\u00e5 inslaget och inte bara hakat p\u00e5 kommentarerna, k\u00e4nner att public service b\u00f6rjar bli ett k\u00e4nsligt \u00e4mne \u00e4ven i tr\u00e5den och det g\u00e4ller att komma f\u00f6rberedd till diskussionen.
\n\u2014
\nVar mycket om att civil k\u00e4nner \u201doro\u201d \u00f6ver denna attack och att Krim kanske inte \u00e4r s\u00e5 ryskt l\u00e4ngre, hade lite sv\u00e5rt att f\u00e5 ihop det. Sen st\u00e4lls ju fr\u00e5gan om det \u00e4r b\u00f6rjan p\u00e5 en attack och d\u00e5 blir svaret av den f\u00f6rmodat sakkunnige att Ryssland ju h\u00e4vdar att det \u00e4r en olycka s\u00e5 sv\u00e5rt att s\u00e4ga. Man f\u00e5r k\u00e4nslan av att hela diskussionen dels \u00f6ver telefon och dels i studion snarast sympatiserar med Ryssland och ser Ukraina som n\u00e5gon form av, om inte agressor, s\u00e5 den part som g\u00f6r m\u00e4nniskor oroliga och st\u00f6r.
\nS\u00e5 h\u00e4r kan man v\u00e4l egentligen bara se p\u00e5 situationen om man sympatiserar med Ryssland och inte med Ukraina.
\nVi i tr\u00e5den har ju slagit saltomortaler och sprungit och handlat finchipsen och riktigt wooooooow;at oss \u00f6ver svampmolnet och allt utslaget flyg. Hur kan n\u00e5gon normalt fungerande m\u00e4nniska inte proppa munnen full med chips och f\u00f6rs\u00f6ka le samtidigt till en s\u00e5dan str\u00e5lande nyhet som denna?
\n\u2014
\nF\u00e5r det verkligen g\u00e5 till s\u00e5 h\u00e4r efter fem m\u00e5naders av etnisk rensning av ett land, det \u00e4r ju inte bara rena faktafel men moraliska kompassen har ju helt slutat fungera. Man f\u00e5r v\u00e4l hoppas att tillr\u00e4ckligt m\u00e5nga l\u00e4ser LW blogg och blir kalibrerade.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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14:27<\/h2>\n

Hittar inte den nu men ni minns v\u00e4l att Ryssarna l\u00e4mnade Tokmachka och en h\u00e5la till f\u00f6r Ukraina la f\u00f6r mycket artilleri p\u00e5 dom?
\nNu \u00e4r Tokmachka med p\u00e5 den dagliga artilistan.
\nOm jag inte minns fel s\u00e5 l\u00e5g den N\u00d6 om Tokmak eller direkt \u00d6 och var en rej\u00e4l inbuktning.
\nDet betyder allts\u00e5 att Ukraina har tagit det samh\u00e4llet nu, sp\u00e4nnande v\u00e4rre.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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17:02<\/h4>\n

Ben Dover \u2013 n\u00e4, det var att folk lever kvar i ett ideologiskt t\u00e4nk att Ryssland var\/\u00e4r kommunistiskt, jag svarade v\u00e4nligt p\u00e5 ditt grova p\u00e5hopp med inslag av sexism \ud83d\ude42
\nJo jag tycker att minsta lutning \u00e5t att Ryssland inte \u00e4r den gr\u00f6vsta av f\u00f6rbrytarstater \u00e4r fel, det finns inget mellanl\u00e4ge alls h\u00e4r, Ryssland \u00e4r fel och Ukraina \u00e4r r\u00e4tt. Men ja, glidningen kan ju bero p\u00e5 n\u00e5got annat \u00e4n att man vill att det Ryska imperiet skall str\u00e4cka sig mellan Vladivostok och Lissabon det har du ju r\u00e4tt i.
\n\u2014
\nGOERAN63 \u2013 jag tror vi tolkade det lite olika, jag fick f\u00f6r mig att hon hade pratat med Ryssar p\u00e5 Krim som var oroliga \u00f6ver att Ukraina skulle eskalera, allts\u00e5 inte att det var pro-ukrainare som var oroliga. Jag kanske tolkade det fel och du har helt r\u00e4tt.
\n\u2014
\nCarl1 \u2013 jag h\u00e5ller med alla.
\n\u2014
\nHelt klart s\u00e5 att det inte r\u00e4ckte med att titta p\u00e5 inslaget \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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