{"id":6449,"date":"2022-08-17T10:37:42","date_gmt":"2022-08-17T08:37:42","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/johanno1.se\/2022-08-17\/"},"modified":"2022-08-17T10:37:42","modified_gmt":"2022-08-17T08:37:42","slug":"2022-08-17","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/johanno1.se\/sv\/2022-08-17\/","title":{"rendered":"2022-08-17"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-0\">\n<h2>12:46<\/h2>\n<p>Jag nosade lite p\u00e5 det h\u00e4r ig\u00e5r men det \u00e4r ju ett st\u00e4ndigt \u2013 inget h\u00e4nder ju, n\u00e4r vi pratar Ukrainas \u00e5tertagande av sitt land fr\u00e5n den kriminella skat-klanen med en liten dv\u00e4rg som f\u00e5tt sina normala m\u00e4nskliga funktioner bortfilade under 50\u00e5r i KGBs tj\u00e4nst.<br \/>\n\u2014<br \/>\nDen 24 Februari, eller om det var dagen efter, var ju den enda offensiva operationen som f\u00f6ref\u00f6ll professionell \u2013 luftlands\u00e4ttningen i Hostomel. Inom en vecka skrev jag en kommentar i tr\u00e5den under den dagens blogginl\u00e4gg att allt verkade oorganiserat och att det inte alls var enligt rysk doktrin, eller liknande. Redan d\u00e5 fick man allts\u00e5 k\u00e4nslan att det h\u00e4r var en rullande cirkus snarare \u00e4n \u201dthe second largest army in the world\u201d som genomf\u00f6rde offensiva operationer med sina b\u00e4sta f\u00f6rband.<br \/>\n\u2014<br \/>\nJust den d\u00e4r luftlands\u00e4ttningen slog an lite det man l\u00e4rde sig om Rysk krigsf\u00f6ring, jag tror att den dagen luftade jag att om Ukraina bara f\u00f6rlorade all terr\u00e4ng fram till \u00f6ster om Dnepr s\u00e5 var det en win. D\u00e4r och d\u00e5 var det mitt b\u00e4sta scenario \u2013 att halva Ukraina r\u00f6k.<br \/>\nMan satt ju s\u00e5klart och h\u00e4cklade ryssarna och biggade Ukraina men oron fanns ju d\u00e4r att det skulle brista n\u00e5gonstans, n\u00e4r dom kom \u00f6ver Dnepr redan vid lunchtid f\u00f6rsta dagen k\u00e4ndes det ju inte s\u00e5 kul och man s\u00e5g rader med utslagna ukrainska konvojer, pansar och artilleri. Mariupols fall var ju ocks\u00e5 trist men det kom s\u00e5 pass sent att det inte k\u00e4ndes som en avg\u00f6rande f\u00f6rlust.<br \/>\n\u2014<br \/>\nRannsakar ni er sj\u00e4lva rej\u00e4lt \u2013 trodde ni att vi skulle sitta i Juli och Augusti och se det ryska underh\u00e5llet pulveriseras?<br \/>\n-Trodde ni att vi skulle f\u00e5 se T62, gammalt utd\u00f6mt eldr\u00f6rsartilleri och gamla GRAD som tagits ur tj\u00e4nst f\u00f6r 10 \u00e5r sedan mobiliseras?<br \/>\n-Att elitf\u00f6rbanden tagit bed\u00f6vande f\u00f6rluster och att man b\u00f6rjat toppa upp med gamla f\u00e4ngelsekunder och tv\u00e5ngsrekryteringar fr\u00e5n ockuperade omr\u00e5den.<br \/>\n-Trodde ni att 10-15 generaler (eller hur m\u00e5nga det nu \u00e4r).<br \/>\nEller att det Ukrainska flyget skulle f\u00e5r luftherrav\u00e4lde tillsammans med LV \u00f6ver halva Ukraina.<br \/>\nOch ett par till\u2026<br \/>\n\u2014<br \/>\nKherson \u00e4r redan hugget i sten, det kan bara sluta p\u00e5 ett s\u00e4tt. S\u00f6dra fronten likas\u00e5 och vi kan v\u00e4l gissa hur resten kommer g\u00e5, man isolerar ett frontavsnitt som en \u00f6 och sl\u00e5r ut allt underh\u00e5ll runtomkring och sen pulveriserar man f\u00f6rsvaret och \u00e5tertar terr\u00e4ngen. I takt med att man n\u00e5r gr\u00e4nserna rullar en f\u00f6rsvarsbrigad in och bes\u00e4tter gr\u00e4nsen, rinse and repeat.<br \/>\n\u2014<br \/>\nDet \u00e4r ju en kvalificerad gissning men om man \u00e4r lite mer f\u00f6rsiktig \u2013 Ukraina har hittills \u00f6verraskat riktigt ordentligt och sen har ju Ryssland varit bland de v\u00e4rsta kl\u00e5pare man har sett f\u00f6rs\u00f6ka f\u00f6ra ett krig. Nu kommer ju Ryssarna b\u00e4ttra sig men Ukraina har en n\u00e4rmast exponentiell kura p\u00e5 materiel, manskap, ammunition och nu krigserfarenhet, dom gasar upp. Vi kan nog vara mycket, myyyyyycket, s\u00e4kra p\u00e5 att Ukraina kommer forts\u00e4tta \u00f6verraska.<br \/>\n\u2014<br \/>\nDet \u00e4r ju ingen hemlighet att det finns T72 i stor m\u00e4ngd med m\u00f6rkerstridsmedel och rykten om Leo2 och Abrams samt de polska P91. IFV \u00e4r det v\u00e4l lite blandad kompott men denna materiel har inte kastats in i sin helhet i striderna \u00e4nnu. En l\u00e5goddsare (eller h\u00f6goddsare som n\u00e5n snart po\u00e4ngterar) \u00e4r v\u00e4l att man samlar f\u00f6r en rej\u00e4l sm\u00e4ll. Rimligen b\u00f6r ju n\u00e4sta fas bli luftherrav\u00e4lde med eller utan F16 och sen mekaniserad strid ut\u00f6ver vad vi f\u00e5tt se idag. Sex m\u00e5naders tr\u00e4ning \u00e4r ganska l\u00e5ngt och soldaterna har antingen v\u00e4rnplikt eller stridserfarenhet i baggaget.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-1\">\n<h3>12:51<\/h3>\n<p>Jo s\u00e5 var det nog, Zelensky spelade ned hotet och armen var inte helt mobiliserad, man hade kunnat g\u00f6ra mer.<br \/>\nAtt det brast p\u00e5 s\u00f6dra fronten var inte Zelenskys fel utan d\u00e4rnere hade v\u00e4l FSB betalat ut mutorna.<br \/>\nAtt det h\u00f6ll \u00e4nd\u00e5 var det ukrainska infanteriets f\u00f6rtj\u00e4nst.<br \/>\n\u2014<br \/>\nDet s\u00e4ger mig hur OTROLIGT effektiv rysk psyops varit. Var ju hundratals artiklar, chatter och tr\u00e5dar i forum om att Ryssland inte skulle anfalla och att allt var en komplott fr\u00e5n USA f\u00f6r att svartm\u00e5la Ryssland.<br \/>\nDen 24 Februari tystnade alla och det kom nya tr\u00e5dar som r\u00e4ttf\u00e4rdigade invasionen ist\u00e4llet.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-0\">\n<h2>15:52<\/h2>\n<p>Om n\u00e5gon tyckt att Johan No.1 haft en positiv underton s\u00e5 presenterar jag\u2026 Andri Yusov, krigets f\u00f6rmodligen tr\u00f6ttaste men samtidigt mest sprudlande positiva intelligence operative \ud83d\ude42<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.ukrinform.net\/rubric-ato\/3552376-tense-situation-expected-at-entire-front-in-near-future-intelligence.html\" rel=\"nofollow ugc\">https:\/\/www.ukrinform.net\/rubric-ato\/3552376-tense-situation-expected-at-entire-front-in-near-future-intelligence.html<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-1\">\n<h3>16:08<\/h3>\n<p>Jo, hade samma k\u00e4nsla och det var ju ett g\u00e4ng positiva r\u00f6ster i tr\u00e5den, inklusive Moralist, fr\u00e5n b\u00f6rjan n\u00e4r media k\u00f6rde sina \u2013 Kiev faller inom n\u00e5gra dagar \u2013 reportage. Det som \u00e4r r\u00e4tt p\u00e5tagligt \u00e4r att det d\u00e5 och ett tag fram\u00e5t var tv\u00e5 tydliga l\u00e4ger \u2013 positiva och glada livsbejakare och de som s\u00e5g allt i nattsvart \ud83d\ude42 men att p\u00e5 senare tid har det b\u00f6rjat bli ett r\u00e4tt starkt konsensus i att Ukraina kommer vinna kriget, fr\u00e5gan \u00e4r bara n\u00e4r.<br \/>\nBara det \u00e4r ju ett tecken p\u00e5 styrka fr\u00e5n Ukraina t\u00e4nker jag, pessimister brukar ju vara de absolut sv\u00e5raste att omv\u00e4nda.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-1\">\n<h3>16:22<\/h3>\n<p>Du har en oslagbar f\u00f6rm\u00e5ga att s\u00e4nka st\u00e4mningen Ben Dover \ud83d\ude42<br \/>\n\u2014<br \/>\nOn-topic, stridsv\u00e4rde och motivation verkar fortfarande vara p\u00e5 topp hos Ukraina och du har snudd p\u00e5 en krigarkultur d\u00e4r de h\u00e5rdaste striderna ger mest cred. Hur jag \u00e4n beskriver detta s\u00e5 kommer det komma sura kommentarer men vad jag ser s\u00e5 \u00e4r det ungef\u00e4r s\u00e5. Man s\u00f6ker sig till strider, inte bort fr\u00e5n dom. Man s\u00f6ker sig till frontf\u00f6rbanden, inte till bakre osv. Det \u00e4r 150 \u00e5r av \u00f6vergrepp som kanaliseras ned till att sl\u00e4nga ut ryssarna fr\u00e5n Ukraina.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-1\">\n<h3>16:26<\/h3>\n<p>Det blev en kul rad kommentarer under ditt inl\u00e4gg LELLEPRINTER och tack f\u00f6r v\u00e4nliga ord \ud83d\ude42<br \/>\nSen har jag nog skrivit fler g\u00e5nger \u00e4n jag avsett att i detta krig skall man hurra fram Ukraina hela v\u00e4gen, skjuter dom i riktning Ryssland s\u00e5 blir det st\u00e5ende ovationer.<br \/>\nAtt sitta och sm\u00e5gn\u00e4lla och d\u00f6ma de lidande Ukrainarna det kan vi g\u00f6ra efter kriget, nu beh\u00f6vs st\u00f6d i alla dess former, vissa \u00e5ker dit, andra donerar, andra sitter h\u00e4r\u2026<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-1\">\n<h3>19:10<\/h3>\n<p>Den d\u00e4r uppgiften reagerade jag ocks\u00e5 p\u00e5.<br \/>\nN\u00e4r det var som allra hetast var det 50 000 granater om dagen och nu \u00e4r det ju betydligt ljummare rysk indirekt eld.<br \/>\nAtt det d\u00e5 \u00e4r 60 000 granater om dagen k\u00e4ndes lite off?<br \/>\n\u2014<br \/>\nEldr\u00f6ren har du tagit upp f\u00f6rut vill jag minnas och det \u00e4r nog en mycket viktig faktor i ryskt artilleris effektivitet h\u00e4r f\u00f6r eldr\u00f6r har jag sv\u00e5rt att tro att dom f\u00e5r fram, dom f\u00e5r v\u00e4l kanske fram utbytesartilleri kan man t\u00e4nka men det blir allt \u00e4ldre modeller.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-1\">\n<h3>19:20<\/h3>\n<p>Det ryktas ju att USA h\u00e5llit i hela stridsledningen \u2013 sant eller inte vem vet.<br \/>\nAtt f\u00e5 fram m\u00e5ldata till eldenheterna har det ocks\u00e5 ryktats att USA hade en stab p\u00e5 50 i Lviv som sk\u00f6tte.<br \/>\n\u2014<br \/>\nJag kan t\u00e4nka mig att det hade varit r\u00e4tt Ukrainskt att d\u00f6 st\u00e5ende uppr\u00e4tt i anfall tills det var slut och att \u00e5terh\u00e5llsamheten och de taktiska retr\u00e4tterna har tvingats p\u00e5 Ukrainarna fr\u00e5n USA iallafall i b\u00f6rjan.<br \/>\nSen har ju Ukraina v\u00e4rldens b\u00e4sta infanteri och nu har v\u00e4l alla l\u00e4rt sig hur man krigar v\u00e4stligt?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-1\">\n<h3>19:23<\/h3>\n<p>Intressant take p\u00e5 vad som komma skall. Jag t\u00e4nkte nog att det var f\u00f6rsvar av Kherson och S\u00f6dra fronten i f\u00f6rsta hand n\u00e4r man nu flyttade ned rysk-ryska BTG dit. Izyum har ju sm\u00e5tt l\u00e4mnats \u00e5t sitt \u00f6de.<br \/>\n\u2014<br \/>\nOm dom nu kraftsamlar p\u00e5 f\u00e4lten samtidigt som HIMARS, 777, flyg och armeflyg f\u00e5r upp gasen och Ukraina kraftsamlar sina refittade brigader i ungef\u00e4r samma omr\u00e5de kan det bli r\u00e4tt sp\u00e4nnande. 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