{"id":6837,"date":"2022-10-21T09:51:44","date_gmt":"2022-10-21T07:51:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/johanno1.se\/2022-10-21\/"},"modified":"2022-10-21T09:51:44","modified_gmt":"2022-10-21T07:51:44","slug":"2022-10-21","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/johanno1.se\/sv\/2022-10-21\/","title":{"rendered":"2022-10-21"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-0\">\n<h2>11:12<\/h2>\n<p>Precis som MP \u00e4r jag lite orolig \u00f6ver laxen och dess lekande i Dnepr nu n\u00e4r 25 000 ryssar skall f\u00f6rs\u00f6ka sparka sig \u00f6ver till den h\u00f6gst relativa friheten p\u00e5 Dnepr v\u00e4nstra strand. Finns nog r\u00e4tt stor risk f\u00f6r l\u00e5ngvarig stress hos fisken som p\u00e5verkar fortplantningsf\u00f6rm\u00e5gan. Det finns v\u00e4l ingen som tycker det \u00e4r kul att f\u00e5 tusentals soldatk\u00e4ngor som trampat gyttja i m\u00e5nader i ansiktet.<\/p>\n<p>(jag vet att det \u00e4r f\u00e4rre och att den stora gnu-migrationen kan bli en tv\u00e5stegsraket d\u00e4r det bara \u00e4r DPR och LPR kvar n\u00e4r allt sl\u00e4pper).<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-0\">\n<h2>11:14<\/h2>\n<p>F\u00f6r oss som hoppas p\u00e5 l\u00f6nnm\u00f6rdat paddansikte med klippande \u00f6gon s\u00e5 var ju g\u00e5rdagens bes\u00f6k av nymobiliserade trist i vanlig ordning.<\/p>\n<p>Putin r\u00f6rde sig obehindrat i ny milj\u00f6, bland bev\u00e4pnade soldater, och s\u00e5g of\u00f6rsk\u00e4mt frisk ut.<br \/>\nHan var upp och ned p\u00e5 marken i en fart som skulle f\u00e5 vilken 70 \u00e5ring som helst att bli avundsjuk, det klassiska artros-hugget s\u00e5g vi icke.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-1\">\n<h3>11:22<\/h3>\n<p>Har t\u00e4nkt r\u00e4tt mycket p\u00e5 det h\u00e4r, f\u00f6r inte s\u00e5 l\u00e4nge sedan kunde det ju krigas i Syrien, Irak, Libyen och vad mer utan att det var ett ord om eskalering. Israel brukar ju ocks\u00e5 dra iv\u00e4g n\u00e5got kul mot fabrik i Iran n\u00e4r dom under stor m\u00f6da lyckats bygga ihop ett domedagsvapen.<\/p>\n<p>Nu \u00e4r helt pl\u00f6tsligt allt mycket k\u00e4nsligt men Putin kan ju egentligen inte eskalera mer \u00e4n vad han gjort, \u00e4r det Kina som via olika kanaler l\u00e5tit meddela vad som \u00e4r ok och inte ok nu?\u2019<\/p>\n<p>Det har ju \u201dbrunnit\u201d i Iranska fabriker f\u00f6rut och den ber\u00f6mda stuxnet-masken som kraschade k\u00e4rnvapenprogrammet minnes.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-0\">\n<h2>11:55<\/h2>\n<p>Den h\u00e4r skulle man ju ha hittat innan man skrev inl\u00e4gget ig\u00e5r om stridsvagnar och v\u00e4sts passivitet.<br \/>\nDet \u00e4r allts\u00e5 H\u00d6GST p\u00e5 listan f\u00f6r Ukraina nu att f\u00e5 tunga offensiva vapen.<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.politico.com\/news\/2022\/09\/22\/ukraine-requests-american-tanks-counteroffensive-00058303\" rel=\"nofollow ugc\">https:\/\/www.politico.com\/news\/2022\/09\/22\/ukraine-requests-american-tanks-counteroffensive-00058303<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Sen det vanliga undvikande fr\u00e5n v\u00e4st om \u2013 bensin, reparationer och sv\u00e5rt att l\u00e4ra sig ratta. Jag tror alla som l\u00e4ser dom urs\u00e4kterna f\u00f6rst\u00e5r att det \u00e4r sk1tsnack och d\u00e5liga urs\u00e4kter fr\u00e5n svaga ledare.<br \/>\nDessutom \u00e4r det Ukraina vi pratar om, dom bygger nya vapensystem i garage som sl\u00e4pper granater p\u00e5 ryssarna fr\u00e5n karusellmagasin och h\u00e4nger p\u00e5 lite av varje p\u00e5 sina Mig \u2013 dom \u00e4r ju sj\u00e4lva definitionen av att l\u00f6sa uppgiften.<br \/>\nVi kan nog vara helt s\u00e4kra p\u00e5 att dom vagnarna kommer ses om b\u00e4ttre \u00e4n hos nuvarande \u00e4gare.<\/p>\n<p>En av de absolut starkaste sk\u00e4len till v\u00e4stligt pansar fr\u00e5n \u00f6versta hyllan \u2013 man sl\u00e5r ut ryssarnas dito p\u00e5 avst\u00e5nd bortom deras maximala skjutavst\u00e5nd, man har riktsystem som \u00e4r helt \u00f6verl\u00e4gsna och bra skydd mot n\u00e4rPV \u2013 det \u00e4r snudd p\u00e5 riskfritt (inte men f\u00f6rst\u00e4rker f\u00f6r effekt) och med dr\u00f6narvapnet vet man precis var allt ligger nedgr\u00e4vt. Nu m\u00e5ste underm\u00e5nligt pansar\/splitterskydd ta sig fram f\u00f6rst inom skjutavst\u00e5nd fr\u00e5n ryssarnas dito och sen genom n\u00e4rPV och d\u00e5 tar dom f\u00f6rluster. Hade man kunnat sl\u00e5 ut allt pansar p\u00e5 s\u00e4kert avst\u00e5nd och sen studsar ryssarnas sm\u00e5 ny\u00e5rsfyrverkerier av mot fronten p\u00e5 Leo2 eller Abrams s\u00e5 sk\u00e4r man rakt igenom och kan f\u00e5 ut skyttet i paddornas eldst\u00e4llningar.<\/p>\n<p>Visst beh\u00f6ver man sina m\u00e5lstyrda granater som jobbar ned T72 i myllan s\u00e5 l\u00e5ngt det g\u00e5r men vid n\u00e5got tillf\u00e4lle m\u00e5ste man fram\u00e5t och ta terr\u00e4ng och d\u00e4r finns det en lerig padda i f\u00f6rsvar med ett litet kort pansarskott som st\u00e5r och klipper med \u00f6gonen bakom bollen av lera.<\/p>\n<p>L\u00e4ser man proryska forum s\u00e5 g\u00e5r det bra ibland och ibland k\u00e4ppr\u00e4tt \u00e5t helskotta, Ukraina kan f\u00f6rlora ett par kompanier i ett misslyckat anfall. Det \u00e4r inte s\u00e5 mycket v\u00e4stlig materiel som levererats, n\u00e5gra hundra M113, ptgb osv. s\u00e5 d\u00e4r g\u00e5r det snabbt mot noll.<br \/>\nJag ser ocks\u00e5 mycket film p\u00e5 BTR60 (eller senare men med 7.62ksp) och BMP-1, det \u00e4r ur\u00e5ldrigt.<br \/>\nDe polska T72 var bra men f\u00f6r f\u00e5.<br \/>\nVi diskuterar inte ukrainska f\u00f6rluster men bara f\u00f6r att f\u00e5 det i perspektiv.<\/p>\n<p>Hade det varit en mekbrigad med pansar Leo2 eller Abrams och meken hade Bradley eller CV90 s\u00e5 \u00e4r dom ostoppbara i denna milj\u00f6 d\u00e4r artilleri och flygdominansen nu \u00e4r bruten.<br \/>\nInfanteriet kan ju inte bli b\u00e4ttre men det dom \u00e5ker in i strid p\u00e5 \u00e4r sk1t och ur\u00e5ldrigt och det spelar in.<br \/>\nEtt par av v\u00e5ra LV vagnar p\u00e5 det som n\u00e4rskydd.<\/p>\n<p>Ist\u00e4llet f\u00f6r bara Izyum hade vi nu kanske haft m\u00f6rkaste Donbass och Krim kvar som varit ryskt och Ukraina hade kunnat lobba in allt kul p\u00e5 Krim och st\u00e4nga underh\u00e5llsv\u00e4gar till m\u00f6rkaste Donbass med fj\u00e4rrspaning och SOF.<br \/>\nSchackdraget hade redan varit utdelat och mobiliseringen hade f\u00e5tt ses i skenet av det.<\/p>\n<p>Nu kan mobiliserade f\u00f6rst\u00e4rka Svatove, Luhansk, m\u00f6rkaste Donbass, S\u00f6dra fronten och kanske i n\u00e5gon m\u00e5n Kherson som v\u00e4l verkar vara \u00f6ver. Det finns ju tv\u00e5 kategorier, de man lyckats f\u00e5nga in som har tr\u00e4ning och skickas direkt till fronten och de som beh\u00f6ver sin m\u00e5nad (m\u00e5nader men dom f\u00e5r en m\u00e5nad). St\u00f6vlar i grop har \u00f6kat varje dag sedan mobiliseringen initierades.<\/p>\n<p>Nu kommer ju inte Ukraina sura f\u00f6r det utan f\u00f6rbereder sig i detta nu f\u00f6r lite av varje verkar det som men jag har mycket sv\u00e5rt att sl\u00e4ppa detta. Det \u00e4r odiskutabelt vad det \u00e4r som saknas och Ukraina \u2013 som vet b\u00e4st \u2013 s\u00e4ger det varje dag men \u00e4ngsliga ledare i v\u00e4st har f\u00e5tt f\u00f6r sig att just stridsvagnar och pansarskyttefordon \u00e4r det som kommer eskalera detta till ett v\u00e4rldskrig.<\/p>\n<p>Man b\u00f6rjar ju s\u00e5 sm\u00e5tt undra om Kremls-psyops har lyckats plantera detta t\u00e4nk f\u00f6r det sista den ryska stridsledningen vill se i Ukraina nu \u00e4r pansar fr\u00e5n \u00f6versta hyllan, d\u00e5 \u00e4r det game over r\u00e4tt fort f\u00f6r dom.  Just nu sitter v\u00e4l n\u00e5n KGB avdelning och sk\u00e5lar i rysk ful-champagne f\u00f6r en mycket lyckad psyops.<br \/>\n\u00c4r en Leo2 verkligen v\u00e4rre \u00e4n HIMARS?<br \/>\n\u00c4r Leo2 verkligen v\u00e4rre \u00e4n Kertjbron?<br \/>\n\u00c4r Leo2 verkligen v\u00e4rre \u00e4n 30 d\u00f6da generaler och en handikappad Gerasimov?<br \/>\n\u00c4r Leo2 verkligen v\u00e4rre \u00e4n sanktioner mot Lavrovs dotter?<br \/>\n\u00c4r Leo2 verkligen v\u00e4rre \u00e4n alla tillf\u00e5ngatagna europeiska frivilliga?<br \/>\n\u00c4r Leo2 verkligen v\u00e4rre \u00e4n M113, Gepard, Warrior, fransk renaultbil, en uppsj\u00f6 av v\u00e4stliga Ptgb och 777?<\/p>\n<p>Sen har vi argumentet att v\u00e4st inte har tillr\u00e4ckligt men Ukraina har ju gjort en inventering och kom upp med siffran 2000st (minst). K\u00e4nns r\u00e4tt tillr\u00e4ckligt f\u00f6r mig och sen har vi USA p\u00e5 det\u2026<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-1\">\n<h3>12:04<\/h3>\n<p>Ja och man kunde sl\u00e4ppa l\u00f6s allt m\u00f6jligt i Dnepr vore ju smart, tjurhaj, anakonda, alligatorer och v\u00e4ldigt mycket pirajor. St\u00f6r finns v\u00e4l redan.<\/p>\n<p>Sen p\u00e5 den stora migrationsdagen k\u00f6r man h\u00f6gh\u00f6jds-luftbrisader bara s\u00e5 man f\u00e5r ett duggregn av sm\u00e5 skarpa splitter s\u00e5 alla badringar punkteras.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-1\">\n<h3>13:25<\/h3>\n<p>Haka inte upp er p\u00e5 Leo2, en mosaik av v\u00e4stvagnar blir det s\u00e5klart.<\/p>\n<p>Underh\u00e5ll, kan dom rulla i tre veckor utan att krascha \u00e4r nog viktiga delm\u00e5l n\u00e5dda.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-1\">\n<h3>14:28<\/h3>\n<p>Om Putin best\u00e4mmer sig f\u00f6r att sm\u00e5prova den r\u00f6da k\u00e4rnvapenlinjen i Mykolaiv eller n\u00e5t s\u00e5 tror jag han kommer f\u00e5r ett h\u00e5rdh\u00e4nt uppvaknande.<\/p>\n<p>USA har ju samma kapacitet med l\u00e5ngdistansvapen som Ryssland har (hade) bara det att dom tr\u00e4ffar och tr\u00e4ffar r\u00e4tt f\u00f6r informationsinh\u00e4mtningen fungerar.<\/p>\n<p>Sen sl\u00e4pps ju alla restriktioner f\u00f6r det Ukraina har.<\/p>\n<p>L\u00e5ter man Ryssland mobba sig fram till en vinst i Ukraina och inte g\u00f6r n\u00e5gonting s\u00e5 kommer varenda skurkregim krypa ut ur sina h\u00e5ligheter och b\u00f6rja vifta med k\u00e4rnvapen.<\/p>\n<p>V\u00e4st m\u00e5 vara urusla p\u00e5 att donera pansar till Ukraina men k\u00e4rnvapen \u00e4r ett hot mot hela det fria v\u00e4st och har inte anv\u00e4nts sedan WW2 och passeras den gr\u00e4nsen ostraffat \u00e4r det obruten mark bakom.<\/p>\n<p>Jag har sv\u00e5rt att tro att det fria v\u00e4st skulle ge upp 300-400 \u00e5r av en fungerande planet bara f\u00f6r att det \u00e4r 2022, den h\u00e4r punkten har vi ju varit vid ett antal g\u00e5nger i historien.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-0\">\n<h2>15:35<\/h2>\n<p>Elon Musk ger sig inte utan forts\u00e4tter komma ut som sm\u00e5tt prorysk h\u00e4r.<\/p>\n<p>Sj\u00e4lvklart \u00e4r han f\u00f6rbannad \u00f6ver hur det gick med Starlink och skall sura men det blir proryskt av det hela och n\u00e5ng\u00e5ng kan det nog sl\u00e5 \u00f6ver p\u00e5 Tesla.<\/p>\n<p>\u00c4r ju ingen brist p\u00e5 konkurrenter som vill knuffa Tesla fr\u00e5n tronen och att sk\u00e4rmklippa en tweet kan v\u00e4l alla.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-0\">\n<h2>15:50<\/h2>\n<p>F\u00f6rl\u00e5t, det h\u00e4r \u00e4r helt off topic och jag har inte ens b\u00f6rjat slurpa i mig fin\u00f6len \u00e4nnu men\u2026<\/p>\n<p>Allts\u00e5\u2026 mina barn kan knappt skjuta en fotboll rakt och h\u00e5ller p\u00e5 att l\u00e4ra sig simma samtidigt som denna flicka i ungef\u00e4r samma \u00e5lder antingen ser otroligt ung ut f\u00f6r sin \u00e5lder eller har f\u00f6r\u00e4ldrar som listat ut hur man f\u00e5r barnen att verkligen brinna f\u00f6r sin tr\u00e4ning \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n<p>Den d\u00f6k bara upp i fl\u00f6det och jag \u00e4r helt m\u00e5ll\u00f6s\u2026<br \/>\n(har best\u00e4llt ett par skarpa samurajsv\u00e4rd i barnstorlek och googlar f\u00f6r fullt p\u00e5 vilken turnering det \u00e4r f\u00f6r om tv\u00e5 \u00e5r \u00e4r det mina barn som k\u00f6r katanas och drop kicks)<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Irina66761600\/status\/1583143185332961281?s=20&amp;t=wRCdX0Pk7H69mWuJ5LfU1w\" rel=\"nofollow ugc\">https:\/\/twitter.com\/Irina66761600\/status\/1583143185332961281?s=20&amp;t=wRCdX0Pk7H69mWuJ5LfU1w<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Vad ni \u00e4n g\u00f6r, se hela filmen f\u00f6r sista biten efter 1:30 v\u00e4lter er ur stolen, om man \u00e4nd\u00e5 hade varit s\u00e5n som barn \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>11:12 Precis som MP \u00e4r jag lite orolig \u00f6ver laxen och dess lekande i Dnepr nu n\u00e4r 25 000 ryssar 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