{"id":7072,"date":"2022-11-28T08:28:33","date_gmt":"2022-11-28T07:28:33","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/johanno1.se\/2022-11-28-2\/"},"modified":"2022-11-28T08:28:33","modified_gmt":"2022-11-28T07:28:33","slug":"2022-11-28-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/johanno1.se\/sv\/2022-11-28-2\/","title":{"rendered":"2022-11-28"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-0\">\n<h2>13:13<\/h2>\n<p>Vill forts\u00e4tta pitcha f\u00f6r det trista, att v\u00e4st inte gav Ukraina m\u00f6jligheten att klippa till mot rysk l\u00e5gpunkt som var nu i tidig h\u00f6st och att v\u00e4st m\u00e5ste forts\u00e4tta leverera. Att ens ta h\u00f6jd f\u00f6r att Ukraina skulle f\u00f6rlora genom att beh\u00e5lla materiel riskerar bli en v\u00e4rldshistoriens on\u00f6digaste sj\u00e4lvuppfyllande profetia. <\/p>\n<p>Tv\u00e5 saker b\u00f6rjar bli tydliga, dels att v\u00e4st inte har obegr\u00e4nsat med materiel, om man f\u00e5r gissa blir vissa typer ammunition och LV robotar bristvara f\u00f6rst, f\u00f6rhoppningsvis inte innan ryssarna f\u00e5r slut p\u00e5 robotar.<\/p>\n<p>Det andra att Ryssland f\u00e5r materiel fr\u00e5n Belarus, Iran, NK och Kina, de tre f\u00f6rsta skickar v\u00e4l gammal ryssmateriel i retur och den sistn\u00e4mnda bist\u00e5r med egen materiel. Som n\u00e5gon sa ig\u00e5r i tr\u00e5den, made in Kina beh\u00f6ver ju inte dyka upp i Ukraina utan det r\u00e4cker med att man utrustar ryssland med det s\u00e5 dom kan skicka allt sitt till Ukraina.<\/p>\n<p>Alla fyra l\u00e4nderna har haft n\u00e5gon typ av krigsekonomi och har v\u00e4l r\u00e4tt v\u00e4lfyllda lador. Nordkorea verkar vara i krig med sig sj\u00e4lva snudd p\u00e5.<\/p>\n<p>Vi har v\u00e4l l\u00e4nge gissat att Kina haft ett finger med i det h\u00e4r, till exempel s\u00e5 drog det ig\u00e5ng dagen efter OS slutade. Nu fick vi en artikel som lade ut diplomatin i skuggorna och att Kina bromsat spetsflyg och pansar fr\u00e5n \u00f6versta hyllan mot att dom f\u00f6rm\u00e5dde Putin att inte g\u00e5 in med k\u00e4rnvapen.<\/p>\n<p>Det som oroar lite \u00e4r att d\u00e5 \u00e4r paddan helt gr\u00e4nsl\u00f6s. Enligt artikeln v\u00e4nde sig kinesiska officerare direkt till ryska dito f\u00f6r att f\u00f6rm\u00e5 dom att v\u00e4gra ordern om den kom.<\/p>\n<p>Summerar man allt s\u00e5 st\u00e5r det f\u00f6r mig klart att Ryssland kommer f\u00f6rs\u00f6ka en rond fyra i v\u00e5r n\u00e4r v\u00e4dret till\u00e5ter, man har v\u00e4l +100 000 mobiliserade kvar i tr\u00e4ning eller s\u00e5 och en runda mobilisering p\u00e5 g\u00e5ng samt att det finns materiel. Nu har verkst\u00e4der\/tillverkning haft snart ett \u00e5r p\u00e5 sig att komma tillr\u00e4tta med brister och det finns fortfarande en hel del i poolen med v\u00e4rnpliktsutbildade samt att man kan tr\u00e4na upp nymobiliserade \u00f6ver 4-5 m\u00e5nader. Enligt ryssarna sj\u00e4lva (ja op\u00e5litligt) s\u00e5 har artilleriet genomg\u00e5tt ett st\u00e5lbad och \u00e4r nu i b\u00e4ttre skick, jag gissar att dom menar hur dom f\u00f6rflyttar sig, counter battery fire och s\u00e5dant. Var en video h\u00e4romdagen p\u00e5 T80U vinterm\u00e5lade s\u00e5 helt klart finns det pansar kvar.<\/p>\n<p>R\u00e4tt s\u00e4ker p\u00e5 att rysk strategi \u00e4r att h\u00e5lla terr\u00e4ng tills i v\u00e5r, anfallen vid Bakhmut \u2013 Siversk och nere i Donetsk skulle kunna ha sin f\u00f6rklaring i att det \u00e4r Oblast-krigande fortfarande och sen var det n\u00e5n twittergud som ans\u00e5g att Bakhmut \u00e4r legendarisk i Ryssland, enda omr\u00e5det som tillverkade salt till Tsarryssland eller n\u00e5t, s\u00e5 v\u00e4lk\u00e4nt namn. Det enda andra jag kan t\u00e4nka mig \u00e4r att dom vill ha just staden Bakhmut och n\u00e5gra samh\u00e4llen till som dominerande terr\u00e4ng men dom kan ju bara falla tillbaka egentligen s\u00e5 jag klarar inte att lista ur rysk logik h\u00e4r. Ut\u00f6ver detta \u00e4r det f\u00f6rsvar eller offensiver f\u00f6r att kunna g\u00e5 i f\u00f6rsvar\/inte drivas bak\u00e5t.<\/p>\n<p>Ukraina b\u00f6r k\u00f6ra en WW2-ryss och anfalla n\u00e4r v\u00e4dret \u00e4r som v\u00e4rst f\u00f6r ryska laget har det sv\u00e5rare. Vi luras lite med alla filmer f\u00f6r det finns absolut ryska f\u00f6rband kvar som fungerar i f\u00e4lt, alla \u00e4r inte nymobiliserade som ligger och fryser ihj\u00e4l i en grop.<\/p>\n<p>Ukraina m\u00e5ste ocks\u00e5 bef\u00e4sta all sin \u00e5tertagna gr\u00e4ns mot Ryssland f\u00f6r r\u00f6tt lag har ju fortfarande lyxen att kunna f\u00f6rbereda sig i lugn och ro f\u00f6r en ny offensiv varhelst dom \u00f6nskar.<\/p>\n<p>D\u00e5 f\u00e5r n\u00e4sta slutsats bli att kan man f\u00f6rm\u00e5 Belarus till resning r\u00e4tt omg\u00e5ende s\u00e5 \u00e4r det en l\u00e5ng gr\u00e4ns Ukraina inte l\u00e4ngre beh\u00f6ver bevaka och d\u00e5 f\u00e5r man rimligen hoppas att det jobbas i skuggorna p\u00e5 det. Helt klar \u00e4r det vad folket vill<br \/>\nEller har Kina f\u00f6rbjudit det ocks\u00e5?<\/p>\n<p>Nu skjuter tydligen Ukraina 4000-5000 granater per dygn och det \u00e4r f\u00f6r mycket f\u00f6r v\u00e4st att klara av i nul\u00e4get. St\u00e4ll det mot ryssarnas 50 000 \u2013 60 000 granater tidigare. Dock s\u00e5 tr\u00e4ffar Ukraina b\u00e4ttre och ryssland \u00e4r l\u00e5ngt ifr\u00e5n det idag.<\/p>\n<p>V\u00e4st f\u00e5r nog passa sig h\u00e4r, vinteroffensiven \u00e4r redan planerad och f\u00f6rberedd f\u00f6r och det \u00e4r inte s\u00e5 mycket man kan g\u00f6ra mer \u00e4n att forts\u00e4tta med vapenleveranserna och f\u00f6rs\u00f6ka f\u00e5 Ukrainas befolkning att h\u00e5lla sig n\u00e5gorlunda varma.<br \/>\nHur skulle dealen med Kina k\u00e4nnas om Ukraina till sist f\u00f6rlorade f\u00f6r att dom inte fick spetsflyg eller pansar? Om NATO i det l\u00e4get gick in har man ju eskalerat flera mil bortom att skicka stridsvagnar.<\/p>\n<p>Jag undrar om inte Kina \u00e5ngrar att dom inte hade med artilleri p\u00e5 -skicka inte- listan och att dom har en r\u00f6d linje vid en v\u00e4stlig intervention, eller det har dom f\u00f6r det \u00e4r skyh\u00f6gt \u00f6ver att inte skicka spetsflyg och pansar. Sen i hemlighet f\u00e5r ryssarna vapen och delar till sin tillverkning av dom. K\u00e4nns som en r\u00e4tt bra win f\u00f6r Kina det h\u00e4r?<\/p>\n<p>Jag tror inte att ryssarna kommer dra fram ett nytt vapen ur hatten som Ukraina inte \u00e4r f\u00f6rberedda p\u00e5 men det kommer vara en b\u00e4ttre organiserad offensiv i v\u00e5r \u00e4n vad vi sett tidigare och har inte Ukraina utdelat den vilda upercuten redan s\u00e5 h\u00e4nger allt p\u00e5 att v\u00e4st d\u00e5 levererar vapen s\u00e5 dom har n\u00e5got att s\u00e4tta emot.<\/p>\n<p>Bubblaren palatskupp eller folklig revolution ter sig alltmer avl\u00e4gsen, fr\u00e5n min l\u00e4ktarplats ser det ut som att n\u00e4sta v\u00e4nda mobiliserade kommer f\u00e5 det betydligt b\u00e4ttre \u2013 mer tr\u00e4ning, mat, v\u00e4rme och allt det f\u00f6r nu \u00e4r man f\u00f6rberedda. Sen kommer dom till fronten i b\u00e4ttre materiel \u00e4n de som hade oturen att mobiliseras i f\u00f6rsta rundan.<\/p>\n<p>Rysk TV skyller allt p\u00e5 NATO och nazisterna i Ukraina, landet verkar l\u00e5ngt g\u00e5nget och hugger p\u00e5 det. I sv\u00e5ra tider \u00e4r v\u00e4l tricket att presentera ett yttre hot f\u00f6r befolkningen att rikta sin ilska emot och just nu \u00e4r det NATO och v\u00e4st. V\u00e4st ha de facto inf\u00f6rt sanktioner s\u00e5 inte helt sv\u00e5rt att driva den vinkeln. Putin har snott en sida ur Bush spelbok.<\/p>\n<p>Kan man under vintern tvinga ut ryssarna ur norra Luhansk, konsekvensuts\u00e4tta N-S underh\u00e5llsv\u00e4g utanf\u00f6r Ukrainas landgr\u00e4ns och n\u00e5 Azov har man kommit mycket l\u00e5ngt. D\u00e5 har ryssarna ingen uppenbar \u00f6ppning i v\u00e5r att f\u00f6rs\u00f6ka utvidga och m\u00e5ste hoppa p\u00e5 v\u00e4l f\u00f6rberett f\u00f6rsvar. Skulle man kunna f\u00e5 Belarus att dra sig ur kriget, \u00e4nnu b\u00e4ttre.<\/p>\n<p>M\u00f6rkaste Donbass kr\u00e4vs det en frontkollaps f\u00f6r att \u00e5terta, det \u00e4r ett antal st\u00f6rre st\u00e4der som sv\u00e5rligen \u00e5tertas med v\u00e5ld p\u00e5 kort tid. Kan man strypa underh\u00e5llet och himarsa bort dep\u00e5erna kanske man n\u00e5r dit men d\u00e5 m\u00e5ste v\u00e4stlig ammunition forts\u00e4tta komma.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-0\">\n<h2>15:31<\/h2>\n<p>Den h\u00e4r dealen med Kina kommer inneb\u00e4ra attacker p\u00e5 v\u00e5r elf\u00f6rs\u00f6rjning och f\u00f6rnyad flyktingv\u00e5g ut ur ukraina.<\/p>\n<p>Tycker gott UA kan sl\u00e4cka lyset i moskva med SOF frekvent.<\/p>\n<p>Sen hade vi alla m\u00f6jliga f\u00f6rklaringsmodeller ned till att ukraina inte visste vad dom beh\u00f6vde n\u00e4r sanningen var att man kohandlat med Kina.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-1\">\n<h3>17:10<\/h3>\n<p>Funderar nog m\u00e5nga p\u00e5. Ett svar kanske \u00e4r d\u00f6 f\u00f6r ukrainsk kula eller i kadyrovitisk tortyrcentral, en annan kanske att dina barn i ryssland \u00e5ker in p\u00e5 tortyrcentral osv. Man k\u00f6r helt enkelt suicide by cop ist\u00e4llet f\u00f6r det g\u00f6r minst ont?<\/p>\n<p>Titta p\u00e5 Kina och Iran, det beh\u00f6vs s\u00e5\u00e5\u00e5 lite f\u00f6r att det ska b\u00f6rja och Sovjet f\u00f6ll av folklig resning.<\/p>\n<p>Man f\u00e5r ge Putin att han \u00e4r bra p\u00e5 att vara diktator.<\/p>\n<p>Var n\u00e5n dr\u00f6narfilm p\u00e5 ett uppenbart sj\u00e4lvmord. Soldaten d\u00f6d och med pipan emot sig.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-1\">\n<h3>18:00<\/h3>\n<p>Hej, jo det var lite i luddigaste laget.<\/p>\n<p>Jag refererar allts\u00e5 till en artikel f\u00f6r n\u00e5n vecka sedan som n\u00e5n av tr\u00e5dens skarpaste postade.<\/p>\n<p>Kina erbj\u00f6d sig att komtrollera k\u00e4rnvapenhotet mot att v\u00e4st inte donerade spetsflyg eller v\u00e4stpansar.<br \/>\nDom \u00e5ngrar nog att dom inte inkluderade artilleri i den listan. V\u00e4stlig imtervention \u00e4r v\u00e4l ocks\u00e5 off the table mot kinesisk intervention?<\/p>\n<p>Ett v\u00e4stutrustat Ukraina i September som hade varit det logiska och vad vi hoppades h\u00e4nde i det dolda hade k\u00f6rt \u00f6ver ryskt f\u00f6rsvar i l\u00e5gpunkten. 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