{"id":7204,"date":"2022-12-18T09:53:13","date_gmt":"2022-12-18T08:53:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/johanno1.se\/2022-12-18\/"},"modified":"2022-12-18T09:53:13","modified_gmt":"2022-12-18T08:53:13","slug":"2022-12-18","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/johanno1.se\/sv\/2022-12-18\/","title":{"rendered":"2022-12-18"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-0\">\n<h2>11:07<\/h2>\n<p>N\u00e5gon skrev i tr\u00e5den om Vinterkriget i Finland att det var Ukrainare som stred till stor del och I g\u00e5rdagens tr\u00e5d postade n\u00e5gon ett citat fr\u00e5n Putin att kriget var p\u00e5 Ukrainas territorium, en positiv.<\/p>\n<p>Sovjet hade \u00f6steuropa som buffertstater och det ingick i deras strategi att f\u00f6ra kriget p\u00e5 buffertstaternas territorium och helst offra deras armeer om det g\u00e5tt.<\/p>\n<p>De som har k\u00f6rts h\u00e5rdast i kriget \u00e4r LPR\/DPR och minoriteterna i Ryssland.<br \/>\nN\u00e4r man trodde p\u00e5 illusionen om en tredagarsoperation var det moskovitf\u00f6rband (kallar etniskt ryska f\u00f6rband fr\u00e5n v\u00e4stra ryssland f\u00f6r det) och det har tagit ett tag att justera sig men s\u00e5 fort man har kunnat har man sparat p\u00e5 moskovitf\u00f6rbanden.<br \/>\nSen har vi himarsandet som f\u00f6rmodligen kommer \u00e5t dom.<\/p>\n<p>Ryssland och Kina \u00e4r de tv\u00e5 kvarvarande kolonialmakterna som fick n\u00e5got slags frikort f\u00f6r att dom hade kommunistiska revolutioner gissar jag. Vi diskuterade det h\u00e4r en hel del i v\u00e5ras.<\/p>\n<p>S\u00e5 h\u00e4r l\u00e5ngt har Moskovit-Ryssland klarat sig ganska bra fr\u00e5n kriget och det som vi ser som skyh\u00f6ga f\u00f6rluster \u00e4r f\u00f6r dom ett s\u00e4tt att g\u00f6ra sig av med icke \u00f6nskv\u00e4rda eller s\u00e5 \u00e4r det obetydliga fr\u00e5n provinserna \u2013 Ryssland har alltid krigat s\u00e5 h\u00e4r.<\/p>\n<p>Det \u00e4r sm\u00e5tt genialiskt att f\u00e5 halva Ukraina att kriga med den andra halvan, 20 000 \u2013 30 000 stupade hos rebellerna \u00e4r ju de facto Ukrainska medborgare.<\/p>\n<p>D\u00e4rf\u00f6r skall vi inte dra f\u00f6r h\u00f6ga v\u00e4xlar p\u00e5 de skenande f\u00f6rlusterna och nu ser vi filmer p\u00e5 tung materiel p\u00e5 t\u00e5g igen, det \u00e4r moddade T80 eller T90. Gammal WW2 materiel har g\u00e5tt till rebellerna.<\/p>\n<p>F\u00f6rsta rundan mobilisering skedde i panik, l\u00e5gpunkten kom f\u00f6r Ryssland och Ukraina hade den kritiska massan p\u00e5 sin sida och gick p\u00e5 \u00f6verraskande (f\u00f6r ryssarna) h\u00e5rda offensiver.<\/p>\n<p>Varje ukrainsk offensiv saknade tyv\u00e4rr h\u00f6g f\u00f6rlust i manskap fr\u00e5n moskovit-ryssland, vid Kharkiv var det DPR och LPR som sk\u00f6tte f\u00f6rdr\u00f6jningsstriden och vid Izyum slank ryska BTG iv\u00e4g utan sin tunga materiel.<\/p>\n<p>Vid Lyman hade man dragit tillbaka ryska BTG och det var DPR och LPR som fastnade under retr\u00e4tten.<\/p>\n<p>Vid Kherson hade man dragit bort VDV veckorna innan och om man f\u00e5r gissa var det LPR\/DPR som genomf\u00f6rde operation Badanka. Sm\u00e5 b\u00e5tar, flytandes i floden d\u00f6da eller balanserandes p\u00e5 pontonbroar.<\/p>\n<p>Detta mots\u00e4ger mitt inl\u00e4gg ig\u00e5r om att Ryssland inte \u00e4r ett hot inom 10\u00e5r t\u00e4nker den morgonsnabbe men det g\u00f6r det inte av den enkla anledningen att om Ukraina g\u00e5r mot en win s\u00e5 kommer Ryssland f\u00f6rst offra en hel del mer moskovitf\u00f6rband och sen g\u00e5r v\u00e4l lend-lease ut och vi f\u00e5r tillbaka 60% av det vi donerat i reparerbart skick.<\/p>\n<p>Jag gissar att man nu dragit bort moskovit-f\u00f6rbanden till bakre och vilar och utrustar dom f\u00f6r v\u00e5roffensiven.<br \/>\nDe som st\u00e5r vid fronterna \u00e4r nymobiliserade av andra sorteringen, f\u00e5ngar, soldater fr\u00e5n provinserna eller LPR\/DPR. Sen finns det alltid en brandk\u00e5rsstyrka av dugliga f\u00f6rband och sp\u00e4rrbataljonerna.<\/p>\n<p>Vid NS f\u00f6rsvarslinje i Svatove ser det nog ut s\u00e5 och vid NS f\u00f6rsvarslinje i Starobilsk och V\u00d6 f\u00f6rsvarslinje i Luhansk har man parkerat VDV.<\/p>\n<p>F\u00f6r att kunna n\u00e5 ett avg\u00f6rande i norra Luhansk i vinter m\u00e5ste Ukraina bryta igenom andrasorteringen och komma \u00e5t de f\u00f6rband Ryssland vill skydda. \u00c4r man beredda att offra dom eller drar man bort dom ist\u00e4llet?<\/p>\n<p>Inom inte alltf\u00f6r l\u00e4nge beh\u00f6ver Ukraina allts\u00e5 b\u00f6rja trycka p\u00e5 mot Starobilsklinjen s\u00e5 n\u00e4sta framtvingade drag fr\u00e5n ryssarna blir att retirera in p\u00e5 eget territorium i god tid innan dom t\u00e4nkt sig sin v\u00e5roffensiv, s\u00e5 deras v\u00e5roffensiv inte utg\u00e5r ifr\u00e5n Starobilsklinjen. Dom kommer inte offra moskovit-f\u00f6rband f\u00f6r att h\u00e5lla detta omr\u00e5de \u00e4r min gissning.<\/p>\n<p>Exakt var Ukraina stannar vet jag inte men landgr\u00e4ns \u00e4r geografisk och dominerande terr\u00e4ng \u00e4r smart. Dock s\u00e5 b\u00f6r dom ha befriat \u00e4ven Troitske s\u00e5 ryssarna inte har ett identifierbart fotf\u00e4ste i norra Luhansk men Ukraina g\u00f6r vad dom kan h\u00e4r i vinter och Troitske ser kr\u00e5ngligt ut.<\/p>\n<p>Dom b\u00f6r ocks\u00e5 komma till sv\u00e4ngen i sv\u00e4ngd\u00f6rren och sen g\u00e5 i f\u00f6rsvar i hela det omr\u00e5det dels mot Rysslands landgr\u00e4ns men ocks\u00e5 mot V\u00d6 f\u00f6rsvarslinje genom Luhansk. <\/p>\n<p>D\u00e5 \u00e4r norra Luhansk avklarat. Enligt tidigare s\u00e5 \u00e4r territorial idag att anse som dugliga infanteribrigader och g\u00e5r i f\u00f6rsvar l\u00e4ngs med landgr\u00e4nsen. Dom sitter inte p\u00e5 h\u00e4nderna utan bygger det b\u00e4sta f\u00f6rsvar dom kan 24-7. <\/p>\n<p>N\u00e4r den ryska v\u00e5roffensiven sent om sider, f\u00f6r lite f\u00f6r sent, drar ig\u00e5ng s\u00e5 m\u00e5ste dom l\u00e4ngs hela fronten och ned till Luhansk anfalla infanteri i f\u00f6rberett f\u00f6rsvar och det kommer g\u00e5 som det alltid g\u00e5r \u2013 d\u00f6d och kaos.<br \/>\n\u00c4r man d\u00e5 beredd att offra moskovitf\u00f6rbanden f\u00f6r detta eller inte?<\/p>\n<p>Ni f\u00f6rst\u00e5r vart jag vill komma, kan Ukraina h\u00f6ja tr\u00f6skeln tillr\u00e4ckligt s\u00e5 kommer inte Ryssland tycka det \u00e4r v\u00e4rt att g\u00e5 all in i v\u00e5roffensiven l\u00e4ngs med Belarus gr\u00e4ns, norra gr\u00e4nsen mot Ryssland och hela v\u00e4gen ned till Luhansk.<br \/>\nDet \u00e4r en enorm str\u00e4cka att f\u00f6rsvara och ocks\u00e5 varf\u00f6r Ukraina m\u00e5ste hush\u00e5lla med f\u00f6rlusterna \u2013 det skall r\u00e4cka till f\u00f6rsvar ocks\u00e5.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-0\">\n<h2>11:26<\/h2>\n<p>Sen har vi m\u00f6rkaste Donbass, S\u00f6dra fronten och Krim. Sedan tidigare vet vi att ryssarna dragit sig tillbaka fr\u00e5n Dnepr med huvudstyrkan och dom f\u00f6rsvarar v\u00e4l med \u201deftertrupp\u201d, spaning eller mindre f\u00f6rband?<\/p>\n<p>Ukraina \u00e4r d\u00e4r och h\u00e4rjar med SOF och det finns n\u00e5n typ av demilitariserad zon snudd p\u00e5 ist\u00e4llet f\u00f6r ett v\u00e4lbef\u00e4st f\u00f6rsvar l\u00e4ngs med hela Dnepr. Det kan bara bero p\u00e5 det Ukrainska artilleriet som nu finslipat sina ryss-d\u00f6dar tekniker till perfektion.<\/p>\n<p>Att korsa Dnepr \u00e4r ett direkt hot mot S\u00f6dra fronten som m\u00e5ste m\u00f6tas och d\u00e5 m\u00e5ste BTG upp p\u00e5 landsv\u00e4g, banda bort ett par mil till Dnepr och sen anfalla ukrainare i f\u00f6rsvar under eget artparaply och med direktnummer till CAS \u2013 det blir blodigt.<\/p>\n<p>Ukraina har de facto redan korsat Dnepr men inte med man\u00f6verf\u00f6rband. Verkar som dom beh\u00e5llit n\u00e5gra man\u00f6verbrigader om tillf\u00e4lle yppar sig.<\/p>\n<p>En st\u00f6t ned mot Azov ligger i korten, ett b\u00e4ttre tillf\u00e4lle kommer aldrig med m\u00f6rker, kyla, bl\u00f6tt och allm\u00e4n mis\u00e4r som drar ned stridsv\u00e4rdet p\u00e5 de ryska f\u00f6rbanden. Kan det samordnas med att man korsar Dnepr kan det nog g\u00e5 fort att tvinga fram en retr\u00e4tt ned mot Krim.<\/p>\n<p>Om man tittar p\u00e5 hur ryssarna positionerat sig s\u00e5 verkar dom f\u00f6rbereda f\u00f6r fortsatta offensiver mot Vuhledar och jag tror dom provinskrigar fortfarande. <\/p>\n<p>Melitopol \u00e4r utanf\u00f6r Donetsk oblast och n\u00e4r Kherson f\u00f6ll \u00e4r det inte l\u00e4ngre en prioritet, gissar jag?<br \/>\nB\u00f6r s\u00e5ledes bli ett anfall mot Melitopol p\u00e5 ren styrka framledes som kombineras med korsning av Dnepr och sen har man n\u00e5tt Krim och d\u00e4r \u00e4r det stopp och dags f\u00f6r HIMARS och 2000st sj\u00e4lvmordsdr\u00f6nare tills ryssarna t\u00f6mmer Krim sj\u00e4lvmant.<\/p>\n<p>Sen har man omr\u00e5det mellan Melitopol \u2013 Luhansk kvar att avverka.<br \/>\nN\u00e4r man har befriat norra Luhansk fr\u00e5n zerg-horden s\u00e5 n\u00e5r man bekv\u00e4mt NS underh\u00e5llsv\u00e4g som beh\u00f6vs f\u00f6r att h\u00e5lla Donbass vid liv.<\/p>\n<p>Kan Ukraina h\u00e5lla allt terr\u00e4ng i f\u00f6rsvar och samtidigt konsekvensuts\u00e4tta allt inkommande underh\u00e5ll och himarsa bort dep\u00e5erna \u00f6ver tid i m\u00f6rkaste Donbass blir det lika oh\u00e5llbart d\u00e4r som vid Kherson \u00f6ver tid.<\/p>\n<p>Eftersom man inte riktigt vet var Ukrainas man\u00f6verbrigader h\u00e5ller hus eller deras skick s\u00e5 \u00e4r det sv\u00e5rt att sia om dom t\u00e4nker ge sig p\u00e5 m\u00f6rkaste Donbass i vinter eller inte.<\/p>\n<p>Det \u00e4r en mycket l\u00e5ng front dom beh\u00f6ver bef\u00e4sta mot rysk v\u00e5r-aggression och f\u00f6r norra Luhansk verkar b\u00e5da sidor ha kraftsamlat, man kanske satsar p\u00e5 att n\u00e5 den gamla stillest\u00e5ndslinjen i Donbass eller n\u00e5t?<\/p>\n<p>Dock ett helt ok utg\u00e5ngsl\u00e4ge f\u00f6r i v\u00e5r att King-Julien m\u00e5ste anfalla ut fr\u00e5n m\u00f6rkaste Donbass med hotade underh\u00e5llsv\u00e4gar och d\u00e4r Ukraina har tryckt in alla SOF och partisaner dom har i omr\u00e5det.<\/p>\n<p>Ukrainas spetsf\u00f6rm\u00e5gor \u00f6kar exponentiellt och dom l\u00e4r sig fort s\u00e5 det artilleri, CAS, SOF och partisaner och man\u00f6verbrigaders som sl\u00e4pps l\u00f6s i v\u00e5r p\u00e5 det som \u00e4r kvar kommer f\u00e5 2022 att framst\u00e5 som lugnet i ett budhisttempel.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-0\">\n<h2>14:59<\/h2>\n<p>Ett steg tillbaka med Leo2<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/noelreports\/status\/1604159659291856898?s=46&amp;t=BPTbQI5O-fBnZ6P8jykvFQ\" rel=\"nofollow ugc\">https:\/\/twitter.com\/noelreports\/status\/1604159659291856898?s=46&amp;t=BPTbQI5O-fBnZ6P8jykvFQ<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-0\">\n<h2>20:27<\/h2>\n<p>Girkin b\u00f6rjar prata om att k\u00e4mpa mot regimen i ryssland.<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/wartranslated\/status\/1604425636671627271?s=20&amp;t=6ad8FyH1ETldCeLaBNx5Fw\" rel=\"nofollow ugc\">https:\/\/twitter.com\/wartranslated\/status\/1604425636671627271?s=20&amp;t=6ad8FyH1ETldCeLaBNx5Fw<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"import-comment import-comment-level-0\">\n<h2>20:31<\/h2>\n<p>Scholz \u00e5terfaller i missbruk mycket fort, f\u00f6rst var det inga Leo2 och nu kr\u00e4ver han f\u00f6rhandlingar.<br \/>\nOtroligt tr\u00e5kigt n\u00e4r han och Macron \u00e5terfaller hela tiden.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/ukraine_map\/status\/1604371145611943938?s=20&amp;t=bQCeB1Sd7tUoCvz5J2T0mA\" rel=\"nofollow ugc\">https:\/\/twitter.com\/ukraine_map\/status\/1604371145611943938?s=20&amp;t=bQCeB1Sd7tUoCvz5J2T0mA<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>11:07 N\u00e5gon skrev i tr\u00e5den om Vinterkriget i Finland att det var Ukrainare som stred till stor del och I 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