- 1330 KWIA
- 13 Tanks
- 20 APVs
- 56 Artillery systems
- 4 MLRS
- 68 UAVs
- 96 Vehicles & Fuel tanks
- 1 Special equipment
We are now in April so I have looked at the statistics up to and including March. The graphs show the losses per month.
A big thank you to Ragnar who provides the statistics: https://bsky.app/profile/ragnarbjartur.bsky.social !
KWIA dropped significantly in February but has slightly rebounded for March. Although it is low compared to January, December, and January, March was one of the highest months of the war.
The artillery started declining throughout the fall but after reaching a low point in December, it has recovered and March became a record month.
We also had a low point in the fall of 2023.
MLRS has been low for a long time, but the trend has been the same for the past few months as for artillery. However, March was far from a record month. The monthly records were set in the summer and fall of 2023, and we have not come close to those losses since then.
The fact that the number of losses of artillery and MLRS is rising again is interesting. Possible factors could be that North Korea has delivered reinforcements, or that Ukrainian drones now reach further into the depth (there have been reports of 40km for regular FPV and 20km for fiber optic drones).
The trend for tanks has been declining since the fall of 2023, although it varies from month to month. March was slightly lower than February and comes in fairly close to an average month.
Other armor has shown a different trend. When tanks peaked in 2023 and then declined, other armor continued to rise until last summer when it dropped sharply, only to recover and then drop again. March is the lowest month since November 20223.
Soft vehicles continue to rise, and March was yet another record month.
Special equipment has been on a downward trend since October last year, and it continued to decline in March.
Update 07:42
The graph below shows the number of shells fired by the Russians, and it clearly shows an increase since the new year. One explanation for the increased artillery losses could be that the Russians are simply using more artillery now than before. The reasons for this are difficult to know. Has North Korea donated larger quantities, has Russia started production? We also do not know if the higher availability of shells or guns is the cause, or a combination. They may never have had a shortage but have simply decided to increase usage.
The trend regarding drones is even clearer; from December, the usage has increased but seems to have leveled off somewhat recently.
Update 08:25
The number of battles decreased in February but rose again in March, and as you can see, there has been an upward trend all the way to December.
Ratio for destroyed hardware Russia/Ukraine. Unfortunately, it shows that Ukraine’s advantage has decreased, and the ratio in recent times is about 1:1.
Strike ratio refers to artillery, MLRS, and air strikes. Since the new year, the Russians have an advantage of ~12:1, slightly higher than usual, but in November and December, it was over 21:1 for a period. Despite the Russian increase in March, the ratios did not change much, and this is because Ukraine also increased its efforts.
Update 11:17
The graph above showing the ratio of destroyed equipment refers to visually confirmed losses from Oryx (it can be quite misleading as the Russians are now forbidden to carry mobile phones). It also does not say much unless you know what losses it refers to.
Therefore, I have compiled a summary from Oryx and put it into a table to make it easier to compare. A negative value under the difference means that Ukraine has lost more than Russia. Although the trend according to the above graph is not so encouraging, it looks quite good overall for Ukraine. The table shows total losses, i.e., destroyed, damaged, abandoned, and seized.
| Equipment | Russia | Ukraine | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Aircraft | 137 | 105 | 32 |
| Anti-Aircraft Guns | 59 | 4 | 55 |
| Armoured Fighting Vehicles | 2005 | 446 | 1559 |
| Armoured Personnel Carriers | 631 | 886 | -255 |
| Artillery Support Vehicles And Equipment | 131 | 29 | 102 |
| Command Posts And Communications Stations | 300 | 42 | 258 |
| Engineering Vehicles And Equipment | 637 | 228 | 409 |
| Helicopters | 157 | 51 | 106 |
| Infantry Fighting Vehicles | 5691 | 1285 | 4406 |
| Infantry Mobility Vehicles | 364 | 845 | -481 |
| Jammers And Deception Systems | 88 | 8 | 80 |
| Mine-Resistant Ambush Protected (MRAP) Vehicles | 57 | 511 | -454 |
| Multiple Rocket Launchers | 479 | 83 | 396 |
| Naval Ships and Submarines | 28 | 41 | -13 |
| Radars | 96 | 136 | -40 |
| Reconnaissance Unmanned Aerial Vehicles | 582 | 480 | 102 |
| Self-Propelled Anti-Aircraft Guns | 27 | 38 | -11 |
| Self-Propelled Anti-Tank Missile Systems | 46 | 18 | 28 |
| Self-Propelled Artillery | 904 | 505 | 399 |
| Surface-To-Air Missile Systems | 310 | 170 | 140 |
| Tanks | 3847 | 1124 | 2723 |
| Towed Artillery | 460 | 238 | 222 |
| Trucks, Vehicles, and Jeeps | 3923 | 1099 | 2824 |
| Unmanned Combat Aerial Vehicles | 18 | 29 | -11 |
| Unmanned Ground Vehicles | 5 | 1 | 4 |
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Operational information as of 08.00 06.04.2025 on the Russian invasion
In total, 178 ↗️ combat engagements were recorded over the past day.
#Kharkiv 1
#Kupyansk 6
#Lyman 26💥💥
#Siverskyi 5
#Kramatorsk 3
#Toretsk 20💥
#Pokrovsk 75↗️💥💥💥
#Novopavlivka 8
#Huliaipol 1
#Orikhivsk 4
#Prydniprovsky 2
#Kursk 17💥
The AFRF🇷🇺 attacked in the Lyman sector 26 times. AFRF🇷🇺 tried to advance near the settlements of Novoyehorivka, Novolyubivka, Hrekivka, Novyi, Katerynivka and towards Zelena Dolyna.
In the Toretsk sector, the AFRF🇷🇺 made 20 attacks in the areas of Kurdyumivka, Toretsk, Dachne, Leonidivka and Druzhba.
In the Pokrovsk sector, AFU🇺🇦 stopped 75 aggressor attacks in the areas of Kotlyarivka, Valentynivka, Oleksandropil, Tarasivka, Lysivka, Shevchenko, Kotlyne, Udachne, Uspenivka, Novooleksandrivka and Bohdanivka.
In the Kursk sector, AFU🇺🇦 repelled 17 attacks by the AFRF🇷🇺 yesterday. The AFRF🇷🇺 made 322 artillery attacks, 12 of which were from multiple launch rocket systems; carried out 22 air strikes, dropping 34 drones.
Yesterday, the AFRF🇷🇺 launched 99 air strikes on the positions of AFU🇺🇦 units and populasen areas, including 163 guided glide bombs. In addition, AFRF🇷🇺 carried out about 5449 artillery attacks, including 123 from multiple launch rocket systems, and used 2237 kamikaze drones to attack.
Yesterday, the aviation, missile forces and artillery of the AFU🇺🇦 hit twelve areas of concentration of personnel, weapons and military equipment, as well as air defense facilities of the AFRF🇷🇺.
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Artillery: partly longer range on drones. Which can locate artillery activity from the Russian side regardless. Otherwise a combination of Ukrainian pre-emptive strike ahead of counteroffensive and intensity of Russian attacks where the artillery reveals itself and can be radar-located and countered.
Surely can be true, I believe in a combination of increased capability of Ukraine and increased usage of Russia. It has also been reported that Russia’s artillery advantage has decreased from 10:1 to 2:1. If the Russians are now using more artillery, it means that Ukraine has also increased its usage. The Russian losses may not only be caused by drones but also by Ukrainian artillery.
“Russia: ‘Slavery case under investigation in Yakutia: two men were kept chained’ Because, again, slavery is a big problem in Russia”
https://bsky.app/profile/prune602.bsky.social/post/3lm4qtvwgc223
“Russia: ‘A slave trader from the Moscow region “recruited” victims and transported them abroad’ Because slavery is a big problem in Russia! There are at least 5 victims this time.”
https://bsky.app/profile/prune602.bsky.social/post/3lfvuri4y4k2n
Förstörda kontorsbyggnader i distriktet Obolonsky i Kyiv efter det ryska angreppet – inspelat av journalister från “Ukraine Now.” De NATO-stridsflygplan som lyfte från Polen hade kunnat förhindra detta. Kunde.
“På söndagsmorgonen genomförde Putins styrkor ballistiska missilattacker mot Kyiv, vilket ledde till bränder och skador på civila.”
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/50255
We have known that for a long time, but now they openly admit it.
“Hungary is on ‘Putin’s team,’ Estonian FM says. Estonian Foreign Minister Margus Tsahkna said Hungary is on “Putin’s team” in an interview with German outlet Rheinische Post, published on April 5.”
Massiva anti-Trump demonstrationer pågår, med över 1 000 protester över hela landet. “Invandring. Medicaid. Arbetarnas rättigheter. Fackföreningar. Utbildning. Du nämner det – vi drar gränsen,” förklarade en fackförening. Budskapet? Hands off our future.
Large anti-Trump demonstration at Place de la Republique in Paris today. Have friends who are in town.
Not Trump’s supporters demonstrating in Paris so the effect can be the opposite.
Yes, it will probably be the urban middle class demonstrating. But there is a France outside of Paris where other population layers have been affected by globalization. Just read Michel Houellebecq’s books.
There have been demonstrations abroad where, among other things, Swedish flags have been burned because they have not considered that we have followed “the right” doctrine and are a decadent society. This has rather strengthened the sitting government as we have generally thought that those who demonstrate should mind their own business in how we run our country.
When the French take to the streets in Paris, it may have the effect of Americans closing ranks and behaving in exactly the same way as we do when Swedish flags are burned.
Apparently, there are also large demonstrations for Le Pen in Paris. Now we just need a few farmers tipping manure and some Hamas sympathizers for the chaos to be complete. I suspect Putin is smiling when he sees the chaos.
But this is what democracy is all about, something that Putin hates. It’s not the first time there have been demonstrations in France, so I think it would have been more dangerous if it had been completely calm.
He may initially like the chaos only to later realize that he hasn’t managed to influence anything significant.
Nice MXT, accumulated bonk! I think there is new ammo from NK hidden in the numbers, but it’s hard to say what proportion. I guess most of it is 130mm, which is a caliber that Moscow stopped using in the 70s. They can probably produce the rest themselves. Rockets also for MLRS.
Thank you! I also believe that NK is behind some of it. Of course, Russia has essentially put itself in a war economy, and even though they are sanctioned, they have probably managed to significantly increase production since the war started. It’s not impossible that they are getting help from China when it comes to importing, for example, gunpowder or at least the components.
Numbers were circulating last year indicating that RU had started production of their standard calibers, but the barrel is probably a severely limiting factor there. If they scrape the bottom, they get 130mm artillery, but then they lack almost entirely stock – here NK can contribute. Of course, just guessing.
Numbers are interesting when looking over time.
A clear trend is that the use of APVs is decreasing and being replaced by ATVs and cars.
Drones and a stationary front make it so that one does not want to risk losing more APVs when rotating or refilling with personnel.
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Saturday Night Live: Trump Tariff Cold Open
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEle3pZRqmI
Underbar 🤣
– 6 winged missiles H-101/H-55CM
https://bsky.app/profile/matsextrude.bsky.social/post/3lm4wtlm32k2h
Strong but wrong, here is the correct image:
This is a normal evening in Ukraine. When darkness falls, the RY planes start to take off, and a couple of hours later, the air raid siren starts wailing. Or it could be Shahed drones or ballistic missiles being fired. Explosions are then mixed with sirens from emergency vehicles.
“The ukrainska väpnade styrkorna visade upp tyska “HF-1″ AI-strike-droner. Enligt BILD levererades över 1 000 fram till april. Med AI-målning flyger de 100 km – även om trupperna föredrar 45-50 km – i upp till en timme.”
I think I have noticed that many people are almost excessively fearful and suspicious nowadays, although I may have gotten the wrong impression. It was almost depressing to read this:
“At the end of November, the city of Malmö subjected its 3,500 employees to a test, a fake ‘phishing attack’ aimed at obtaining login information. However, the municipality was forced to stop the test prematurely – after a third of the recipients fell for it, reports Sydsvenskan.”
https://omni.se/fejkad-it-attack-mot-malmos-anstallda-slutade-i-kaos/a/vgK56p
Malmö is hardly representative of the rest of the country.
Maybe not, but it applied to 1/3 of 3500 employees, a fairly large statistical sample, and I find it hard to believe that employees within the City of Malmö would deviate too much from the average in Sweden, but feel free to explain why it would be so if you truly believe it is.
Mother-in-law is from Malmö!
Ah, that explains it! 😂
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It will be exciting to see how it goes next week, will the race continue on the world’s stock exchanges or will it stabilize?
“JP Morgan is the latest American major bank to warn that Trump’s tariff policy risks leading the US economy into a recession, reports TT.
The major bank has significantly cut its GDP forecast, down to 0.3 percent from the previous 1.3 percent. At the same time, unemployment is expected to increase to 5.3 percent.”
https://omni.se/jp-morgan-hakar-pa-varnar-for-recession-i-usa/a/Vz39RV
“$5.4 trillion, equivalent to 54,000 trillion kronor, went up in smoke in the massive sell-off on Wall Street over the past two days. This is reported by Bloomberg.”
https://omni.se/54000-miljarder-upp-i-rok-i-wall-streets-blodbad/a/OoAQnE
Someone wrote yesterday that 10% of Americans account for 50% of consumption. I suspect that these 10% use a lot of the returns from the stock market for consumption. If half of these were to halve their consumption in the near future, consumption would decrease by 12.5%, which could trigger a sharp economic downturn. Add to that the costs increasing for the average citizen when tariffs take effect, which would further increase the speed and size of the avalanche.
Interesting graphs at the top. However, I couldn’t help but focus on the “Ratio of destroyed or damaged equipment…”
The trend doesn’t look very promising. Any analysis or comments?
Well, if you look closely at the graph, it doesn’t look good. The Russians are taking huge losses when it comes to hardware, and if the numbers are correct, Ukraine would suffer equally high losses.
At the same time, I think you have to take that with a grain of salt.
The losses included are visually confirmed information from Oryx. They get their material from social media. There may already be an imbalance in terms of available material.
The Russians have long prohibited their soldiers from having mobile phones, and they probably can resort to harsh methods to enforce it. One explanation could simply be that there is significantly more material from the Ukrainian side.
We also don’t really know what is included just by looking at the graph. The Russians are known to attack cars with drones. To get a better picture, one would need to go through all of Oryx’s numbers.
Right now, they only cover military equipment, but I have added their numbers to my post now.
Perpetua, who also focuses on examining losses, usually ends up between 1:1 and 1:4, and only occasionally have there been more Ukrainian losses than Russian ones.
Just because I wrote so, Perpetua has just come with her latest compilation and unfortunately it shows that the ratio is exactly 2:1 to the disadvantage of Ukraine.
“The lawyer Erez Reuveni from the US Department of Justice is suspended after criticizing the Trump administration, several media outlets report.
Erez Reuveni represented the US government in the case of the mistakenly deported man Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia, who was sent to El Salvador in connection with Trump’s presidential order to deport suspected gang members. This despite a court ruling that he should have been allowed to stay.”
Perpetua and this time it’s unfortunately ~2:1.
https://bsky.app/profile/andrewperpetua.bsky.social/post/3lm4yvljco22q
“Ryssarna visar upp markdronar beväpnade med kulsprutor och RPG-7:or, som verkar vara mycket sårbara för ukrainska FPV-dronar.”
“Pro Ukrainian channel report an AFU advance near Lysivka, Pokrovsk direction”
https://x.com/FreudGreyskull/status/1908625952189587470#m
Ukrainian drones hit Russian explosives, fiber optic factories near Moscow. Insider identified one of the factories hit as a remarkably effective link in the chain, providing Russia with foreign-derived components for its war machine. https://kyivindependent.com/ukrainian-drones-hit-russian-fiber-optic-factory-east-of-moscow/
“Failed Russian Attack in Donetsk Oblast | Russian Scammers Pose as Ukrainian Ballet Dancers”
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Zelensky welcomes French, British army chiefs in Kyiv, talks troop deployment. “There is tangible progress and initial details on how the partner security contingent might be deployed,” President Volodymyr Zelensky said.
US neo-Nazi terrorist group pays recruits to carry out attacks in Ukraine, Guardian reports. The Base, an American neo-Nazi terrorist group with links to Russia, is offering recruits payment to carry out terrorist attacks in cities across Ukraine, the Guardian reported.
https://kyivindependent.com/neo-nazi-terrorist-group-offering-locals-payment-to-carry-out-attacks-guardian-reports/
Task & Purpose about the T-90.
“Russia’s Embattled Tank on the Frontlines in Ukraine”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCSgmcAESPk
The Russian dude:
“Kadyrov QUIETLY BUILDS “VOIN” Army Across Russia. Putin LOSES CONTROL of Chechens”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22V14ty-1Ps
“Estonia expelled a Russian national from the country overnight. Authorities stated that he posed a threat to public order and national security, per ERR.”
“Fibre optic FPV drone crashed into one of our positions, caught by the anti-drone net. Deadly leftovers…”
“The largest Turkish opposition party CHP demands that the country holds presidential elections already this year and that the detained Ekrem Imamoglu should then be the party’s candidate. The election is actually scheduled to be held by 7 May 2028.”
Thank you for a great summary of stone dead barbarians 👍
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During the past months, it is guaranteed that they have moved the drone umbrella to 40km.
RU has also increasingly left the artillery and is trying to protect it instead.
Fire movement no more
“Ukraina kan självt producera luftvärnssystem och missiler för dem, sade Zelensky, men för detta behöver Ukraina lokal produktion och licenser från partners”
“Two GBU-62 JDAM-ER bombs wiped out a Russian-occupied building in Soledar almost to the ground.”
“The 🇳🇴Norwegian government has proposed allocating an additional 1.44 billion euros for the development of its own army, including the purchase of additional 155 mm K9 VIDAR self-propelled howitzers.”
Risk of the “Anti-Tesla movement” losing sympathies if they vandalize the cars in this way.
“When Daniel from Malmö was about to get into his car earlier this week, he was met with a shock. Someone had spray-painted two red swastikas on his white Tesla, he tells SvD. He tried several ways to remove the graffiti, but eventually had to go to a car company that cleaned the car for free.
Even Tesla owner Thomas in southern Stockholm has been subjected to sabotage lately. First, the car got mysterious dents, then someone smashed a window.”
“A new meeting between Russia and the USA may take place as early as next week. That’s what Russia’s envoy Kirill Dmitriev tells the Russian state-friendly TV channel Channel One, as reported by several news agencies.”
WARNING!
“Russian infantry, Pokrovsk direction!”
https://bsky.app/profile/maks23.bsky.social/post/3lm5ld5p4fc25
““Russia is not included in the new US tariffs list because Washington is in negotiations with Moscow, says the White House.
Real friends.”
https://bsky.app/profile/noelreports.com/post/3lm5lbjmlc227
“Enligt den ryska voenkoren Romanov har AFU avancerat upp till 600 meter in i ryska positioner nära Popovka, Belgorod-regionen. ❗️34:e brigaden drog sig tillbaka, och nu genomför 155:e marinkåren en motattack för att återta förlorade positioner.”
“Putin’s fighters show how their wounded evacuation goes: a car stuck in mud, two heavily injured in the trunk, another being bandaged right in the swamp.”
https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1908879521626857788
Russian occupiers are in ecstasy over the “party” after a Ukrainian drone hit their car near Chasiv Yar, Donetsk Oblast”
Sounds good to me!
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16-24 I have heard rumors about
One should not count out Canada but suspect that a lot has to do with being able to push against the USA.
There is a certain potential to sell more than Gripen to Brazil. 😁
https://bsky.app/profile/maks23.bsky.social/post/3lm5lkpwjcs25
🇪🇺 Reporter: “EU imports almost no U.S. pork because of ban on hormones used there. It’s not about tariffs.” 🇺🇸 Agriculture Secretary Rollins: “No, no, no. They’re using bad science and unsubstantiated claims to keep our products out.”
https://bsky.app/profile/theukrainianreview.bsky.social/post/3lm5pxbuxns25
Has Kennedy expressed any concern about all the hormones and drugs used in animal farming?
Russia’s and Ukraine’s approach to manufacturing drones is reflective of their cultures: Russia’s is centralized, focused on mass production, while Ukraine’s is more entrepreneurial and innovative.
Russia has focused on making bigger numbers of just a few models. While this has helped it produce them at scale, it also aids Ukrainian drone operators in identifying them and developing a sense of how to defeat them. “it’s very easy to identify them. They rarely make any changes to the design.” Russia’s more centralized process (also) means that “if there’s an error with a component part, then it will be an error that spreads across systems. If there’s a loophole that allows you to hack, then it spreads across all systems and makes them vulnerable.”
Locked article in Business Insider
Thought-provoking as Sweden is in the process of procuring drones.
“Uppdatering: Ryskt angrepp mot Kryvyi Rih dödar 20 personer, inklusive 9 barn, skadar 75. “Tyvärr har antalet offer för det ryska terroristangreppet den 4 april ökat till 20 personer,” sa Oleksandr Vilkul, chef för Kryvyi Rihs militära administration den 6 april.”
https://bsky.app/profile/kyivindependent.com/post/3lm5tj4umkk2z
Nothing strange, just Russian soldiers in Donbas.
https://bsky.app/profile/maks23.bsky.social/post/3lm5v66o5i22v
What a pity, that they are not going home!
It looks like he’s crawling around on a garbage dump.
“Russia: A burning freight train locomotive causes train delays in Krasnoyarsk Krai. Are Russian Railways locomotives bursting into flames on their own now? Because the train was moving when it caught on fire.”
Talk about potholes in the road!
“Kursk region, 234th airborne regiment. One of the roads of death, because of which Russians lose a lot of equipment. Weather conditions only worsen the situation – the movement has slowed down, and they have become an easy target for the Ukrainian drones.”
Must be a bomb crater
‘Shoot them’ — Russian commander ordered troops to open fire on their comrades, intercepted call suggests.
Intercepted calls released by Ukraine’s military intelligence (HUR) suggest a Russian commander losing his temper and ordering soldiers to shoot at their own comrades in a neighboring unit.
https://bsky.app/profile/kyivindependent.com/post/3lm5txsxhnk2z
There might be some frustration with the commander.
Alarmist on the Agenda about the world economy after Trump’s tariff increases.
The thought arises: what will happen to Europe’s defense building and military support to Ukraine?
Maybe one should consider that. What will happen to the world economy if Russia is allowed to conquer Ukraine and can build up militarily for the next invasion of a neighboring state?
What comes first: security or economy? Because there is certainly a clear hierarchy?
And economically, Russia (with the exception of shortcomings in the sanctions) has already “taken the hit.” They have largely transitioned to a wartime economy. Is it time for Europe to also focus on the war?
Agree that our economy may not matter so much now if it risks being shattered in a war in a few years.
But much could probably be sorted out by working smarter. For example, it is said that 1,200,000 people are not self-sufficient; if ten percent of these were to go from costing the state (the municipality) 10,000 SEK/month to paying in 10,000 SEK/month, it would result in 28.8 billion SEK in reduced expenses and increased revenues. This would give municipalities and regions a better economy, which could lead to a reduced need for support from the state budget.
Some estimates suggest that welfare fraud costs the state and municipalities 15-30 billion SEK/year. If one were to invest one billion in controls, one could probably get several times that back in saved expenses.
What Jens Nylander has done when he examined invoices sent to municipalities using AI should make those responsible wake up.
But then we must also be careful where we throw the money when we are now arming ourselves in panic. Quoting Johan Westerholm, Ledarsidorna.se
“If corruption in aid is significant, there is an even greater black hole in defense material procurement. Where billions are now allowed to flow into the Swedish Defense Materiel Administration without control for more or less panic-induced material purchases. Experience shows that large capital injections into this sector lead to extensive structures of ‘kick-backs’ where individual officials can receive reverse bonuses from specially selected suppliers for everything from the authority buying weapon stands for marksmen to other more advanced systems such as 155 mm field howitzer ammunition. The stands for the army’s marksmen that the FMV procures are of such poor quality, actually intended for cameras, that they break after a week’s use, and the soldiers now buy their own. With their own money.”
Westerholm has previously mentioned that at the FMV, there is an individual who procures each item. They sit for a long time and become close acquaintances with those who sell the goods they procure. If one wants to avoid corruption, they should not sit for so long, and then there should be a group of people who keep an eye on each other.
The remarkable thing about Jens Nylander is that the public has started to close ranks and make it harder for him to get information 😲
Wherever he has delved deeply, there has been rampant corruption with our tax money.
That thing about the defense side, I brought up the other day 😀
👍 I also thought about writing about the aid, but I thought you had already covered it and it was getting too long. But it’s scary how much could be saved without those in charge seeming to care. The total budget for the state, regions, and municipalities is probably around 2000 billion? 5-10% could easily be saved (then add, for example, defense) without affecting any of the core activities.