Ukraine daily update August 26, 2025

That the USA (and Europe) has once again stopped Ukraine is now well established, and that Ukraine has offensive reserves is also well established – we were right again.

Now remains to clarify why Europe made a U-turn.

We can assume that Trump did not make a U-turn even though he will adjust himself – all his statements from now on are irrelevant, now it is Europe that matters.

The USA was quite cheeky and tried to bring down Zelensky by going to Zalizhny when Trump was at his worst.

How far will Ukraine advance on this European pivot – I am of the opinion that they need full asymmetric warfare to have a chance to succeed.

When Trump’s latest turn of peace negotiations was about to begin, he pushed for a “ceasefire” until he met Putin. Europe’s leaders wrote their letter and demanded a ceasefire, which Ukraine also did in statements.

A ceasefire would have been absolutely devastating and I screamed – not only could Putin have unleashed everything useful in Ukraine and used it elsewhere, but he would also have gotten the start of his win that he needed.

Ukraine would have collapsed like a soufflรฉ from that blow, and GRU/FSB/SVR would have gained a foothold somewhere to start unraveling the country – a ceasefire would effectively have taken away the last hope the shooters had left.

I am of the opinion that China and Russia are up to something fishy but that Europe might crash the party – as usual, we will probably find out in Q1 2026 maybe when the first leaks come?

Now it seems that Russia was more concerned that Europe (not the USA) would use a ceasefire to send troops into Ukraine, and that is apparently the Russians’ nightmare above all else. Europe was clear that they would do so, which was appreciated, everyone except Poland.

Was it Putin who saved us, rhetorical question of course, but Europe seemed to be heading completely in the wrong direction there and if Putin had agreed to a ceasefire, history would have repeated itself with a paper-waving Chamberlain and “peace in our time.”

We discussed the above sequence of events in last week’s post and you all read everything, right? ๐Ÿง

Then we have the meeting in the USA where Trump absolutely praised Europe and showed them his MAGA cap collection – every leader worth something in Europe showed up, including a grumpy Meloni. Quite a big difference from when JD Vance and Trump attacked leader after leader and humiliated them at various meetings – Kier Starmer got the Zelensky treatment for example and in various media they have been tough on our leaders.

Then they are suddenly hailed as living demigods.

And then suddenly it all breaks loose, and it is clear that Europe has made a U-turn –

First came Druzba which we immediately attacked because it was huge – it has been completely forbidden for over three years by Europe, the USA probably wouldn’t have cared. Do not touch and a big no-no from us.

Or, before Druzba actually came, there was Azerbaijan’s U-turn that we speculated about revealing an early change in course a few weeks ago.

An attack on Druzba, another attack, and then a third attack where Hungary and Slovakia absolutely scream over having lost out.

And Europe’s leaders are laughing heartily.

Then Macron calls the Russians “Orcs and barbarians” – Macron is a weather vane but these are very harsh words even coming from him.

Stubb has clear and straightforward communication right now.

Since the beginning of August, refinery attacks have reached ten (10) including a re-run at the Syrzan refinery on August 24.

Ukrainian drones at nuclear power plants – THAT has been absolutely forbidden, now remains to be seen if it was a one-time occurrence or if there will be more.

You don’t need to cause a Chernobyl just to disrupt the power grid.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-drone-hits-russian-nuclear-plant-sparks-huge-fire-novateks-ust-luga-2025-08-24

Something that has completely disappeared from the reporting was Ukrainian Special Operations Forces near the strategic nuclear weapons deep in Russia a few months ago.

Since Trump definitely did not turn, it can only mean that Europe has had enough and sided with Ukraine. This is all Ukraine needs because then they can win the war with full asymmetric warfare and the shooters regain hope – I believe hope is actually the most important factor.

Hungary and Slovakia will not be able to block for much longer in the EU because they have no electricity to charge their phones and will have to sit there in the dark waiting for winter.

Yes, we could have a 1939 scenario where Europe declares war on Russia and then does nothing so Ukraine crashes anyway.

But Europe has awakened and Putin has to deal with that now, it changed overnight and would of course come sooner or later but Putin used Trump to delay it as long as possible.

Why we have awakened just now we can only speculate –

-we see for ourselves how Ukraine is retreating in dominant terrain and shooting down fewer Gerans.

-We know how Russia is arming faster than Europe anticipated because China has built up their entire war material production.

-We have followed the EU’s failed trip to China where they were picked up by some administrator and driven to the hotel by bus.

-How Trump plays on Team Red with Putin is very clear – now the USA wants a strong Russia to dampen the EU and stand together against China, but look at Venezuela to see how the USA reacts to threats in the neighborhood. Trump is driving the USA line, that should be very clear.

-Zapad 25 and increased threat level.

-How the wave of sabotage sweeps across Europe we have also followed – a large number of arrests for deliberate forest fires, for example, young men where the worst sinners have started 60 forest fires each. Some full-time work over this so someone is presumably paying?

Choose for yourselves, each one is sufficient reason to have had enough really๐Ÿ˜€

Everything is always relative, applies to both Russia and Ukraine. Now, finally, the UA counterattack has started at the end of August when the period for offensive action has been since mid-March.

They have also given up dominant terrain and maybe it’s as simple as they didn’t dare to do anything as long as Trump pushed his peace plan?

Since RU has advanced, they have not been prepared for defense – now that colossus on clay feet must try to adjust which takes some time.

If I may guess, I believe Putin understands that he has a tight schedule now before the door to Ukraine and the Baltics is permanently closed.

After that, Europe will eventually arm him down behind a mile-deep minefield along the entire eastern border and he knows exactly how the Cold War ended.

Either he lies down, takes the hits, and the Russian empire starts to wobble.

Or he escalates, a final all-in on red and hopes for the best.

What feels most Russian?

Well โ€“ then everything is always relative and what Russia can actually achieve in practice is a factor in the mix.

Ukraine always has a plan for offensive actions, they had it in the fall of 2024 but Trump ruined the party.

Trump also prevented Ukraine from targeting objectives in Russia (just as we said!)

https://omni.se/kallor-usa-blockerar-kyivs-attacker-mot-ryssland/a/lwGwrM

Sirsky has already confirmed it in the link below that I posted earlier, so I might have been stating the obvious, but now it’s undeniable.

https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/4017977-cinc-syrskyi-urges-us-eu-to-provide-more-air-defense-and-allow-strikes-deep-into-russia.html

Just as Biden stopped everything โ€“ it took a few years before what I had been claiming all along was confirmed, and many doubted.

It’s actually not that difficult โ€“ look at the ACTIONS.

If Ukraine targets refineries at a high pace until February 22, 2025, and then stops abruptly โ€“ high chance that Trump stopped it, right, since his peace journey began.

But there are two sides to this tango โ€“ Ukraine is also a party in the conflict.

If Europe changes its stance and wakes up, Ukraine will be able to target Russian objectives in Russia as they wish.

Even though the equipment the USA is sending soon still comes with limitations.

But Ukraine is clear that all targets in Russia will be hit with domestic weapons โ€“ it took a few years for this to happen.

But Druzba is pyramid-sized, a whole war off-limits.

The refineries are not just refineries, they are also oil depots and the railway network, so they are targeting the entire chain for fuel in Russia now.

Export terminals and LNG should also be included, as well as oil production and infrastructure โ€“ basically the whole package that is now being targeted with high intensity.

Of course, it would have been better if they had continued in February, that’s probably understood by everyone, but resuming it at 11:59 is better than nothing.

I think Trump lost control โ€“ Europe threatened with the national debt, and he had to give in.

Europe has also had enough โ€“ we understand that our turn is coming, sooner or later.

If Ukraine is given free rein for its asymmetric warfare, they will win this even if it might not be entirely fair to put everything on them again for the seventeenth time after we actively sabotaged.

Ukraine has offensive reserves and they always have a plan, I expected offensive operations in the fall of 2024 but Trump ruined it, and his peace journey has mainly aimed to try to demoralize Ukraine as much as possible.

Ukraine has definitely suffered these three years, and volunteers in Ukraine have told us that the atmosphere was at its lowest during Trump’s rampages.

If Ukraine can combine something on the battlefield that looks bad for Putin with massive strategic targeting and other asymmetric warfare measures, Putin’s house of cards will collapse pretty quickly.

Putin is worried

China is worried

WW2 escalated into a hurricane because Europe remained passive.

The war in Ukraine and Russia’s and China’s constant global escalation had to happen because Europe remained passive.

In words, Europe said the wrong things.

But in action, everything has changed in Ukraine โ€“ what Europe should have done then is to take responsibility and tell Ukraine that we stand behind you, go ahead with whatever you want.

Macron is a weathervane, and now he’s tough in words again.

If Azerbaijan joins the game, it will also become lively, and Russia has carried out several large-scale sabotage operations against them in the past month.

A turnaround was needed in Europe โ€“ and now it has come before peace in our time, so the likelihood of a favorable outcome for Europe has increased significantly.

My salary in dollars is a minor disaster, I can tell you it’s quite noticeable…

Trump has put all his trust capital in Putin, and he would have a peace in Ukraine to boast about โ€“ the fact that Europe is pulling ahead doesn’t look good for him at all.

It’s so obvious that Trump is rigging everything to look good for the masses โ€“ soon the USA will go to war with Venezuela over Russian Geran in the country, for example.

With a bit of luck, Trump will also fall โ€“ he deserves it. Probably, he will retract his claws regarding the UA war and Europe and continue to try to squeeze everything out of Obama and Clinton for the next 3.5 years.

If no one stops Ukraine, Russia will turn inwards. For those who skimmed through the posts, it means that Putin loses the respect of the others in the criminal clan and is deposed by means of a gasoline-soaked fireball.

Then the country will try to decide on a new leader for the cartel, and they have 400,000 in private armies and letter agencies at their disposal.

Ukraine will activate all liberation fronts and the mosaic of minority groups in different republics who want their, according to the UN, legally mandated freedom.

Because Ukraine understands that only a collapsed Russia will lead to peace in our time, that we must take the shortcut through that first.

This war was supposed to be decided in 2025, and if Europe doesn’t change its stance now, the war is likely already decided. It could have been settled in 2022 when the entire VDV was on the wrong side of the Dnieper, but the USA solved it for Putin just like the attack on the northern front in the winter of 2023.

Wagner clearly showed in the summer of 2023 how an all-out Ukrainian offensive straight to Moscow could have gone in the winter of 2023, but Ukraine had to use volunteers and no Western weapons.

The Belgians screamed when Ukraine used UN-fal personal weapons when they crossed the border.

We will see some spectacular liberation deeds in the future, but RU will continue with further offensives, and we sincerely hope that UA can meet them and retaliate strongly.

Then the great Empire collapses and breaks up into ten new countries, Kaliningrad becomes autonomous and demilitarized, and Belarus gets its popular revolution that we denied them last time around.

Big steps towards real peace in our time, therefore โ€“ very positive โ€“ positive.

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112 thoughts on “Ukraine daily update August 26, 2025”

  1. Russian losses in Ukraine 2025-08-26

    • 890 KIA
    • 4 Tanks
    • 3 AFVs
    • 33 Artillery systems
    • 95 UAVs
    • 97 Vehicles and Fuel tanks
    • 2 Special equipment

    SLAVA UKRAINI

  2. ๐Ÿš€ Ukraine produces one Flamingo missile per day, according to the Associated Press. By October, this figure is expected to increase to seven.

    In a publication by the AP agency, whose journalists visited one of the company’s factories, it says:
    โ–ช๏ธThis year, Fire Point completed testing of its first FP-5 (Flamingo) cruise missile with a range of 3,000 km.
    โ–ช๏ธAccording to independent experts, it is one of the largest missiles of its kind in the world, capable of carrying a payload of 1,150 kg.

    ๐Ÿฆฉ WHY WAS THE MISSILE NAMED “FLAMINGO”?
    The initial versions of the missile were pink due to a manufacturing error. Thus, the name “Flamingo” stuck.

    https://www.ukrinform.ua/rubric-ato/4028005-ukraina-viroblae-po-odnij-raketi-flamingo-na-den-ar.html

  3. Kupiansk left without water, electricity, and gas amid Russian attacks. “They are living in nearly inhumane conditions. We cannot provide any administrative or social services there,” Andriy Besedin, head of the Kupiansk military-civil administration, said.

    About 1,800 civilians remain in the city, according to Besedin.

    Kupiansk, home to about 30,000 people before the all-out war, has been on the front lines of Russia’s offensive in Ukraine.

    Besedin told Novyny.LIVE that daily attacks with guided bombs, artillery, multiple-launch rocket systems, and FPV (first-person-view) drones have destroyed critical infrastructure and prevented the delivery of humanitarian aid.

    https://kyivindependent.com/ukrainian-city-near-russian-border-left-without-water-electricity-or-gas-amid-russian-attacks/

  4. ‘This is a disgrace’ โ€” Ukraine condemns Woody Allen’s participation in Moscow film festival. “By taking part in a festival that brings together (Russian President Vladimir) Putin’s supporters and mouthpieces, Allen is deliberately turning a blind eye to the atrocities that Russia has been committing in Ukraine every day for 11 years,” Ukraine’s Foreign Ministry said.

    https://kyivindependent.com/this-is-a-disgrace-ukraine-condemns-woody-allens-participation-in-moscow-film-festival-2/

    1. – Give me all your money, said the robber, waving the knife.

      – Never in my life, said Vance.

      – Give me half of your money then!

      – Oh, what a nice robber willing to make concessions!

  5. I suspect that they are starting to have serious problems maintaining them due to the sanctions. It seems more convenient to blame it on them not being able to get certified. I have actually been waiting to hear about elevators that have stopped working.

    Or could they have been even more devious? – Hmm, how will we manage without them here in Russia. Escalators and elevators are unnecessary luxuries. We introduce rules that cannot be followed. So there, we can send all inspectors and repairmen to Ukraine.

    “โ€ผ๏ธ Russia: ‘Escalators and travelators in shopping centers may stop working on September 1-

    The reason will make you laugh.

    On September 1, all escalator and travelator certifications issued before September 1, 2024, expire in Russia. This regulation is included in the rules for the safe use and maintenance of such equipment, which came into force a year ago….’

    https://bsky.app/profile/prune602.bsky.social
    https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/7989404

  6. USA, Trump

    Small test from Trump’s side to see what kind of response he gets?

    “US President Donald Trump is pushing back against the criticism directed at him due to the heightened federal control over the police in Washington DC. Trump criticizes, among other things, the media and says that he has been called a dictator, writes AFP.

    โ€“ Many people say: “we might like a dictator”.

    At the same time, Trump says that he does not like dictators, and that he is a smart man with “common sense”.

    In recent days, Trump has said that federal measures, such as sending soldiers from the National Guard, can be deployed in more major cities.”
    https://omni.se/trump-en-del-i-usa-kanske-gillar-en-diktator/a/Jbz657

    1. Trump has not come as far as Putin who controls the media, where they usually run tests instead when they want to see how the population reacts.

      Trump of course has Truth Social, Twitter, and has probably started with TikTok, but I wonder if he will not try to start a TV channel as well “Trump News”, although it might be a bit too expensive.

  7. Australia – Iran, Antisemitism

    “Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese accuses Iran of carrying out several arson attacks against Jewish targets in Australia last year, including against a synagogue in Melbourne, reports the New York Times.

    – These were extraordinary and dangerous aggressions orchestrated by a foreign power on Australian territory. It was an attempt to undermine social cohesion and divide our society. It is completely unacceptable,” he said during a press conference.”
    https://omni.se/australien-iran-bakom-antisemitiskt-attentat/a/73eqQw

    “Iran’s ambassador is being expelled from Australia, citing the country’s involvement in several antisemitic attacks in 2024, reports AFP.

    The arson attacks, including targeting a synagogue, took place in Melbourne and Sydney.

    Australia’s Foreign Minister Penny Wong is now warning citizens against traveling to Iran.

    – I know that many Australians have family ties in Iran, but I urge all Australians considering traveling to Iran not to do so,” she said.”
    https://omni.se/australien-utvisar-irans-ambassador/a/gwoLea

  8. Not exactly unexpected.

    “Russia is withdrawing from the European Convention for the Prevention of Torture and Inhuman or Degrading Treatment. Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin signed a decree on Monday urging Vladimir Putin to complete the withdrawal, according to independent Moscow Times.

    Russia ratified the agreement in 1998. It has allowed the independent body CPT to conduct inspections in prisons, detention centers, and institutions. But after the invasion of Ukraine, Russia was excluded from the Council of Europe and since then the torture convention has not been complied with.”
    https://omni.se/ryssland-lamnar-europeiskt-tortyravtal-efter-28-ar/a/wg1v4d

  9. Trump

    Is it simply too woke to call it defense?

    “During the upcoming week, Donald Trump is expected to change the name of the Department of Defense to the Department of War because the current name is “too defensive”. That’s what the president tells reporters in the White House, according to Politico.

    It was called the Department of War between 1789 and 1947.

    – Then we became politically correct, says Trump. …”

    https://omni.se/trump-forsvarsdepartementet-bor-heta-krigsdepartementet/a/dRXLkX

  10. N Slobozhansky-Kursk 5โ†˜๏ธ
    S Slobozhansky 12๐Ÿ’ฅโ†—๏ธ
    Kupyansk 8
    Lyman 28๐Ÿ’ฅ๐Ÿ’ฅโ†—๏ธ
    Siverskyi 5โ†˜๏ธ
    Kramatorsk 13๐Ÿ’ฅโ†—๏ธ
    Toretsk 6
    Pokrovsk 43๐Ÿ’ฅ๐Ÿ’ฅ
    Novopavlivka 19๐Ÿ’ฅโ†˜๏ธ
    Huliaypillia 1
    Orikhivsk 2
    Dnipro/Prydniprovsky 3

    S Slobozhansky 12๐Ÿ’ฅโ†—๏ธ

    AFRF attacked the positions of Ukrainian defenders 12 times near Hlybokyi, Vovchansk, Ambarne, and in the direction of Kutkivka and Kolodiazne.

    Kupyansk 8

    Eight clashes took place yesterday in the Kupiansk direction. Our defenders stopped the enemy’s assault in the areas of Synkivka, Holubivka, Kolisnykivka, Lozova, and Zagryzove.

    Lyman 28๐Ÿ’ฅ๐Ÿ’ฅโ†—๏ธ

    In the Lyman direction, the enemy attacked 28 times. They tried to break through our defenses near the settlements of Novomykhailivka, Hrekivka, Kolodyazi, Novoselivka, Zelenaya Dolina, and in the direction of Yampil and Serebryanka.

    Kramatorsk 13๐Ÿ’ฅโ†—๏ธ

    Yesterday, 13 clashes were recorded in the Kramatorsk direction, with the occupiers attempting to advance in the areas of Chasiv Yar, Bila Hora, and towards Stupochky and Predtechino.

    Pokrovsk 43๐Ÿ’ฅ๐Ÿ’ฅ

    In the Pokrovsk direction, our defenders stopped 43 assaults by the aggressor in the areas of the settlements of Nikanorivka, Mayak, Myrolyubivka, Novoekonomichne, Rodynske, Hrodivka, Sukhyi Yar, Lysivka, Chunyishyne, Zvirove, Kotlyne, Udachne, Novomykolaivka, Horikove, and Dachne.

    Novopavlivka 19๐Ÿ’ฅโ†˜๏ธ

    In the Novopavlivka direction, the enemy carried out 19 attacks yesterday in the areas of the settlements of Yalta, Zelenyi Hai, Voskresenka, Shevchenko, and Komyshuvakha.

    1. He raises tariffs, threatens with further increases, demands magnets and rare earth metals, but wants to stop the export of the advanced technology that the counterparts need (one of the few areas where the USA has something unique to export that others cannot offer).

      Then he thinks that everyone else is stupid and unfair to the USA?

      It will be interesting to see where this ends.

      “Donald Trump warned last night of increased tariffs against China by 200 percent if the export of rare earth metals is restricted.

      – They must give us rare earth metals. If not, we must impose 200 percent tariffs or something similar, said Trump in front of reporters after a meeting with South Korea’s President Lee Jae Myung at the White House, as reported by several news media.

      Furthermore, Trump is considering imposing new export restrictions on advanced technology. In a post on Truth Social, he warns of measures against countries with regulations that “harm” American tech companies.

      “Digital taxes, legislation on digital services, and regulations on digital markets are all designed to harm or discriminate against American technology,” he writes.”
      https://omni.se/varnar-for-skarpta-tullar-mot-kina-och-nya-hamndtullar/a/dRXLGw

      1. Trump operates with mafia-style tactics, and he thinks like Putin, that it’s a zero-sum game, he can’t give anything without getting something, if he feels that the other party has taken something from him. He wants to have, and if he doesn’t get it, he threatens and creates a scene, just like a 3-year-old in the sandbox.

  11. Russia has unlawfully added the ports of occupied Berdiansk and Mariupol to its official list of ports open to foreign vessels, an attempt to legitimize its occupation and tighten control over Ukrainian territory.

    This step is a direct violation of Ukraineโ€™s sovereignty and a breach of fundamental norms of international law.

    Ukraine urges the international community to introduce tough new sanctions against all Russian and foreign entities engaging in commercial activity in these ports, as well as sanctions on every vessel that enters ports in temporarily occupied Ukrainian territory.

    Russia must not be allowed to profit from aggression or exploit Ukraineโ€™s infrastructure in occupied regions for its own gain.

    https://x.com/stratcomcentre/status/1960227552355578137?s=46

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ While STILL failing to defend Ukraine, the Europeans that are now enjoying Netflix and looking forward to those tasty swedish meatballs at IKEA this weekend will soon get to see North Korean ships fresh from Pyong Yang weapons factories unloading in Europe’s southern ports.

    And theyโ€™ll try too wish that away too..

    https://x.com/jayinkyiv/status/1960232258184393002?s=46

  12. ๐ŸžBug. If I insert text with links with English selected as the language, the links disappear in the Swedish translation. In the post I made above, I have reinserted the links in the Swedish version.

    I suspect that something similar happens if I insert text in the Swedish language version?

    1. Interesting, thank you!

      I have to test some to see if it happens every time or if it’s just occasional.

      The entire comment including links and other things is sent via API to Open AI. The instruction is clear not to make any changes to the HTML code and to ignore everything within tags like links and image links etc. and only translate plain text. Also, if the text is already in the “target language” it should not be translated. 

      (One time it translated the English text in posts in Swedish to Swedish in the English translation, so it’s not easy to get it to not make mistakes. Besides, it can be correct 10 times in a row but then suddenly it goes haywire.)

      By the way, I’ve been thinking about trying to get it to handle dates correctly so that 2025-08-26 becomes 26/8/2025 in English, but I’m not sure if I dare to try to get it to understand that without messing up in other ways.. ๐Ÿ˜€

      AI is just like us humans, far from flawless!

       

       

  13. Putin’s upcoming meeting with China is interesting.

    Is it a meeting they have agreed on together, is it Putin who has requested an audience, or is it Xi who has summoned his vassal? 

    Some thoughts on this:

    1. If it is a joint meeting, maybe they will discuss how China can increase support for Russia and maybe even take a more active role. Maybe even to escalate (e.g. in connection with ZAPAD 2025).

    Personally, I believe that China has so far wanted a protracted war to increase control over Russia and buy cheap oil, etc., and that they are not ready to escalate or support with heavier equipment. It would cost too much and ruin relations completely with the EU and risk sanctions and even higher tariffs from the USA, etc. But that’s just my guess. 

    2. If Putin has requested the meeting, I guess it’s because he will stand there with his hat in hand trying to persuade China to do more. Maybe he wants to get better payment for his oil, maybe to get help with weapons, or production. But what can he offer now when the economy is faltering? Let China take over mines, oil fields, or what? Will China then agree to that and to what extent?
    Do they really want to help Russia more? They currently seem to have the upper hand in Ukraine, does China really want to see Ukraine fall? They will end up in the hands of Russia, China probably prefers to see Russia moderately weak.
    But they may get promises to be the ones who exploit Ukraine, and that can of course be interesting.

    3. If Xi has summoned Putin, maybe it could be that China is actually starting to have enough?

    China probably knows how to bribe the right people and probably has a good handle on Russia’s economy. It may be that they are starting to see that they will not be able to milk them much more.

    Sure, they want cheap oil and are willing to pay for it, but are they willing to provide increased support in the form of weapons if they do not see a possibility of getting good payment? Russia’s economy is not particularly large. Even though it is of course good to nestle in and take over much of their markets, it is still small change even though Russia with its size and natural resources still has potential.

    Trade between Russia and China has decreased (at least officially) during 2025 compared to before.

    China has been hit by US tariffs, they have had a housing crash. They have, among other things, invested heavily in the development of wind power and solar power, which are now declining sharply.
    The USA, which has been one of the biggest customers, is now stopping all investments. Europe is partly pressured by the USA but also the war means that the economy is not the best, Europe has not ordered to the extent hoped for.

    But it is not only in those areas. Growth has, among other things, gone down. There are even those who go so far as to warn that China is facing a financial collapse, while others wonder if it is in worse shape than we think.

    Possibly, China realizes that the war no longer benefits them, but rather they are losing on it and therefore are no longer interested in holding Russia under their arms. Crushing Europe (with the help of Russia) would completely sabotage the economy in the EU and they would lose a big customer but perhaps even worse, it would likely lead to global economic decline if the war expanded.

    If they could end the war by stopping support to Russia, they would do what Trump failed to do. All parties except the USA would be grateful and it would be a huge propaganda success.

    At the same time, I do not believe that China is ready to throw Russia under the bus and make Putin lose face. It could also lead to major political turmoil where Putin does not survive.

    As I said, this is just speculation, but it will be interesting to see which path China takes. They have not been particularly active earlier during the war, just occasional statements. Maybe they are starting to become interested in taking a more active role. The question is in which direction they choose to go.

    Most likely, however, they will not change course but continue as they have done. Enough support for Russia not to lose, but not so much that China suffers from extensive sanctions and tariffs.

    1. There is a chance that Xi wants to meet Putin to make sure he doesn’t try to do anything without permission, such as attacking Europe. As you write, it would not be good for business.

      A scenario that may not be likely, but would be very good, and interesting, would be if Xi were to ask Putin to sit down and then give him a long lecture that it is time to think about the refrain. The war is now, when Europe is starting to have enough, in such a phase that it risks being very bad for business, and it must come to an end. Putin has painted himself into a corner, and must end the war in such a way that Ukraine and Europe can accept it.

      Then, Xi could get the Nobel Prize, and then I would like to be a fly on the wall in the Oval Office, Hitler’s outburst in Downfall, would be pure child’s play in comparison.

    1. Interesting reading!

      It’s pretty much where I end up in my thoughts, simplified. China is prepared to go to great lengths to ensure that Russia does not lose.

      At the same time, they are probably not willing to go indefinitely far, so there is probably a breaking point.
      They probably want to avoid sanctions that could potentially cost them hundreds of billions when it comes to exports to the USA and the EU.

      If things go bad enough for Russia and they actually seem to be losing the war, how much money and resources is China willing to sacrifice?

      I believe that if we reach that point (similar to what the article is suggesting), China will do everything they can to prevent Russia from collapsing but may not care as much if Russia cannot retain occupied territories.

      It may then be the case that China actually deploys troops to protect Russia’s borders if they suspect Ukraine is planning to advance, but they will not attack or get involved in any war with NATO.

      It could end up like Russia with North Korea. China provides support, but only enough for them to survive and not collapse. They do not want chaos, and they do not want to risk NATO’s border getting closer.

      1. Yes, China really has a problem in how to best act from their point of view. In my amateur analysis, it should be attractive for them to support a coup against Putin where the silovik power can continue but it is politically possible to withdraw from Ukraine and blame everything on Putin, surely planning for a new round in that case, albeit in secret. One question, of course, is whether it is possible at all to create any stability in Russia after switching to a wartime economy.

        1. Difficult to know how tight the relationship is with Putin but China would be foolish if they based the entire relationship with Russia on one person (he could disappear at any time).
          They have surely cultivated relationships within both the siloviki, the military, the Duma, and the security services.

          Your idea is probably not as bad as an option for China if things go sour and Putin refuses to give up. When they no longer feel it’s worth continuing to support, they signal to their contacts that Putin must go and that they will support whoever makes it happen. 

          Good question about stability.
          I also think it will be difficult for them to try to go back. Perhaps that’s one of the reasons why many believe they will continue to fight, they may have more to lose by stopping.

          If they fail to achieve some form of soft landing where they can slowly return, Russia can be torn apart from within regardless of external influence. If there is a significant loss in Ukraine, the risk is significantly higher. However, China will probably do everything they can to prevent it. Even if they may be interested in parts of Russia themselves, I don’t think they want to see total chaos. 
          Not impossible that they actually deploy forces and help ensure stability. Regardless of whether it’s Putin or someone else in power.

          1. I believe, as I somewhat wrote above, that if China feels that Russia is weak enough for them to control, then the risk of an expanded conflict with Europe could make China demand that Russia withdraws.

            Partly because an expanded conflict will undoubtedly affect China’s economy, and partly because an expanded conflict will end with a Russian collapse, and chaos.

            If there were to be an expanded conflict, and China wants to keep Russia intact, to have access to its resources, they must actively help Russia, and then they lose Europe as a trading partner. They can hold back Europe by stopping resources needed for war, but it hits their economy hard, and then Europe would have to seek these resources elsewhere, e.g. Canada, and if we are forced to do so, for existential reasons, we can probably arrange it quickly, with a bit of German discipline and efficiency.

  14. “Orban said Zelenskyโ€™s remarks about the Druzhba oil pipeline were โ€œthreatsโ€ with long-term consequences. He also whined, claiming that Ukraine is mounting a serious attack on Hungaryโ€™s energy supply and thus on its sovereignty.

    This was a response to Zelenskyโ€™s point that Kyiv has always supported friendship between Ukraine and Hungary, and that the future of โ€œDruzhba (friendship)โ€ now depends on Hungaryโ€™s position.”
    https://bsky.app/profile/saintjavelin.bsky.social/post/3lxcboqylc22j

    1. Yes, that would be the most logical explanation, that he is tasked with transforming the USA into a dictatorship, and then he invites Putin as a co-consul.

  15. USA – Denmark – Greenland(?)

    USA halted yet another major wind power initiative in the USA. So, it’s not that they have withdrawn state investments, they have simply revoked approval for the exploitation. Therefore, there are no savings for the American state.

    Wind power is just too woke.๐Ÿ˜‰

    Hydropower, wind power, and solar power are the three cheapest sources of electricity in the USA, in that order. Even without subsidies. In the USA, nuclear power is heavily subsidized, yet it is the most expensive electricity (about 4-6 times as expensive).

    In the long run, this could affect both consumers and industries in the USA with increased electricity prices.
    It has been said that they will expand coal-fired power plants, but even coal is about 2 times as expensive.

    Anyway, it’s interesting that they are linking it to Greenland even though it feels a bit far-fetched.

    “Just hours after Denmark’s Foreign Minister Lars Lรธkke Rasmussen stood alongside California Governor Gavin Newsom with a new climate research agreement, Donald Trump halted ร˜rsted’s wind power project. This was reported by FT, pointing to a complicated diplomatic situation.

    The question now is whether the wind power project is part of the “shadow war” over Greenland.

    Danish officials have started connecting the events. At the same time, the meeting between Newsom and Rasmussen is raising some criticism given the tensions between Denmark and Trump.

    โ€“ Maybe it wasn’t so smart, says a source to the business newspaper.

    On Monday, Trump halted ร˜rsted’s wind power project, causing a billion-dollar blow to the company and a double-digit drop in the stock. The Danish state owns 50 percent of ร˜rsted.”

    https://omni.se/forst-gronland-nu-oersted-usa-fortsatter-pressa-danmark/a/GykjOl

      1. It’s quite cheap here as well if you consider new facilities, right?

        When competing with old hydropower and nuclear power where the original investments have already paid off long ago, they are of course cheaper but it becomes a bit skewed.

        When it comes to new establishments, onshore wind power is the cheapest, followed by solar panels (larger facilities), then new hydropower, followed by offshore wind power and lastly nuclear power.

        Of course, these are just estimates, we haven’t built anything new for a long time when it comes to water and nuclear power.

        Of course, it’s worth a slightly higher price for nuclear power and hydropower, it’s needed since we can’t rely solely on wind and solar.

        Here is a source:

        https://energyplaza.vattenfall.se/blogg/vind-och-sol-kan-ge-mest-energi-for-pengarna

        Direct link to the report mentioned in the article:
        https://energiforsk.se/media/30970/el-fra-n-nya-anla-ggningar-energiforskrapport-2021-714.pdf

        1. Flurrevuppen

          Are those calculations that take into account all the costs that intermittent production gives rise to in the system as a whole? Wind power requires that other production is available to cover nearly 100% of its capacity when there is no wind. So, every W of wind power that is built therefore requires in principle that corresponding controllable power is either built at the same time or is at least available in the system. So, to guarantee delivery, you then need to build both a wind farm AND e.g. a gas turbine plant with the same capacity. Then you do not get a stable system with just wind power, which you can, however, achieve with controllable power. So… to what extent do the above calculations take into account these double investments that are required? Or are they based on wind power cannibalizing the profitability of existing controllable energy production? A hidden subsidy…

          Compare e.g. https://wattsupwiththat.com/2025/08/06/why-is-cheap-electricity-so-dmn-expensive/

      2. It’s probably quite cheap here too, at least onshore.

        Solar power is at least somewhat predictable, when it’s dark the production is zero.

        Wind power is cheap to build, but that doesn’t mean it’s profitable. When the installed wind power capacity is too high, the electricity price drops when it’s windy, and when it’s not windy the price is high, and the wind turbines stand still.

        I think it’s better for industry, and electricity companies if they can have some ability to estimate what the electricity price will be in two days, and not like now when it can vary from 5 to 50c/kWh on the same day.

        Larger industries buy electricity at a certain price for a longer period, so then it’s the electricity companies that take the hit, but they recover it the next time the price is adjusted, and so it goes on, up and down. Wind power companies are losing money, conventional electricity production is losing money, as the price approaches zero when it’s windy, electricity distribution companies have problems when consumers concentrate consumption at times when it’s cheap… etc..etc.

    1. Strange. Can’t California proceed with the project without federal support? California is the world’s fourth largest economy, if the state is compared to a nation:

       

  16. “The USA and Russia have, in parallel with the peace negotiations, negotiated several new energy agreements between the countries. This is reported by five sources with insight to Reuters.

    According to the sources, the USA sees such an agreement as an incentive for the Kremlin to make peace and as a way to enable eased American sanctions.

    The issue was discussed during the USA envoy Steve Witkoff’s visit to Moscow. The plans have also been discussed inside the White House, directly with Donald Trump, according to two of the sources. According to one of the informants, the agreements were also on the table when Trump met Vladimir Putin in Alaska.

    – The White House really wanted to be able to show a headline after the Alaska summit and announce a major investment deal. This is how Trump feels he has accomplished something, says one of the sources.

    Russia’s large energy sector has largely been cut off from the outside world since the country began its invasion of Ukraine.”
    https://omni.se/kallor-usa-och-ryssland-i-hemliga-moten-om-energiavtal/a/vgMwR4

    1. Shitkopf is an accident, appointed by another accident, because both are incompetent.

      Special envoy to the Middle East, it’s going damn well, except for the Middle East.

      Was appointed as an envoy to Russia because Putin wished it.

      Was supposed to mediate for peace between Russia and Ukraine. Has traveled to Russia 5 times, hasn’t set foot in Ukraine.

      Parroted Putin with an American accent when he came from the first meeting with him.

      Here’s a good article about Witkoff’s antics, though in Finnish, but it should be possible to auto-translate.

      Comment: The negotiation mess of the war in Ukraine is the fault of one man – and it’s not Trump – Ilta-Sanomat

       

       

  17. India – Pakistan

    Wondering if this could increase the risk of the conflict flaring up again?

    “Over 150,000 people are being evacuated from the floods in Pakistan, reports Reuters. The situation is worsened by India releasing water from dams that flows across the border into the Pakistani Punjab province, where half of Pakistan’s 240 million inhabitants live.

    India warned Pakistan about the dam releases through diplomatic channels, writes The Tribune. The low-intensity conflict between the countries escalated to hostilities after 26 tourists were killed in Indian-controlled Kashmir in April. A ceasefire was agreed on May 10, but the water agreement between the two countries has not been resumed.”
    https://omni.se/indien-tappar-ur-overfull-damm-forvarrar-oversvamningar-i-pakistan/a/0Vmorg

    1. Wasn’t it during the conflict that they had shut off the flow to Pakistan, causing a drought.

      Now, they had indeed warned, and if they hadn’t opened it, there would probably have been a risk of it collapsing, and then they would have really had problems.

  18. “Top diplomat criticizes Trump’s peace plan: ‘Political theater’
    Drafts of European security guarantees to Ukraine are pure ‘political theater’ that cannot protect against future Russian aggressions. This is warned by the American top diplomat and former Biden advisor Michael Carpenter in an interview with Kyiv Post.

    โ€“ This force will probably never be deployed, as Putin will surely reject it when negotiating the terms of a ceasefire, he says.

    The background is that European leaders want to negotiate the proposal without Putin’s influence. Carpenter sees this as pointless, as he is the one who must approve it.”
    https://omni.se/toppdiplomat-sagar-trumps-fredsplan-politisk-teater/a/QM1PdP

  19. Israel – Palestine
    “Israel’s attack on the al-Nasser hospital in southern Gaza constitutes a war crime in many ways, writes Peter Beaumont in an analysis in The Guardian.

    Beaumont is particularly critical of Israel’s “reckless” double attacks. First, the IDF bombs a location, and when rescue workers and civilians rush there to help, Israel fires on the location again. Critics argue that this strategy has become more common and according to a journalistic investigation, it can be linked to Israel wanting to ensure that injured Hamas members do not receive medical care, he writes.

    He condemns Israel’s description of yesterday’s deadly attack as a mistake:

    “It seems to be policy and not a mistake.”

    The double attacks are also particularly deadly for journalists who quickly run to the scene to cover the events, writes the BBC’s Lucy Williamson. With nearly 200 dead journalists, the Gaza war is the world’s most dangerous conflict to cover.”

    https://omni.se/analyser-israels-dubbeldad-en-taktik-inte-ett-misstag/a/73em0w

    1. If it’s true, it’s awful, then Israel has crossed over to the dark side.

      I wonder if Hamas knew what they were getting into, if they knew that Netanyahu was so crazy, that he destroys Israel’s reputation and esteem out of revenge, and thereby serves Hamas’ purpose.

      In that case, one must congratulate Hamas (posthumously) for succeeding with their plan.

       

    1. Here Gregg from just now: Ukrainian counterattacks around Dobropillya
      โ€ข Ukrainian defense forces have pushed back Russian intrusions east and northeast of Dobropillya. They captured Nove Shakhove and Zapovidne, and managed to drive Russian forces away from positions along the T 0514 highway between Dobropillya and Kramatorsk, as well as south of Vesele.
      โ€ข Through these counterattacks, parts of the Russian 51st Combined Arms Army (51st CAA) are threatened with being encircled northwest of the Zapovidneโ€“Mayakโ€“Volodymyrivka line.
      โ€ข The report indicates that the Russian military leadership has abandoned attempts to expand into Dobropillya due to failed infiltrations and the inability to establish lasting positions.
      โ€ข Intense fighting in Pokrovsk
      โ€ข The Ukrainian General Staff reported 136 combat actions during the day, 43 of them in the direction of Pokrovsk. Russian forces carried out 43 air strikes (with 57 precision-guided bombs), used 1,459 kamikaze drones, and conducted 2,799 shelling attacks on Ukrainian positions and settlements.
      โ€ข An alternative report mentions a total of 76 battles during the day, with the focus on Pokrovsk according to the General Staff.
      โ€ข Another source reports 174 clashes between August 25-26, with Ukrainian forces repelling 43 Russian attacks in the Pokrovsk sector.
      Successful Ukrainian counterattacks and fortifications
      โ€ข Chief of the General Staff Oleksandr Syrskyi informs that Ukrainian forces carried out successful counterattacks on the Pokrovsk front, where several villages were recaptured, including Mykhailivka, Velykyi Hai, and Volodymyrivka.
      โ€ข In addition, troops received additional support in the form of ammunition, drones, and electronic warfare systems, which helped stabilize the front.
      โ€ข Ukraine’s defense forces repelled attacks in Nykanorivka, Mayak, Myrolyubivka, Novoekonomichne, Rodynske, Hrodivka, Sukhyi Yar, Lysivka, Chunyshyne, Zvirove, Kotlyne, Udachne, Novomykolaivka, Horikhove, and Dachne.
      โ€ข The General Staff also reported that 142 Russian soldiers were neutralized, including 86 killed, and that the defenders destroyed 18 vehicles, 7 drones, 2 drone control points, as well as 3 personnel-protected shelters, in addition to an artillery and an electronic warfare system.

  20. Can one guess that it is the Russian state behind it?

    “Sensitive personal data may have leaked from several of Sweden’s municipalities after the system data provider Miljรถdata was subjected to a cyber attack, reports TT.

    80 percent of the country’s municipalities use the provider, which is now being pressured for money, according to the police.

    – They have gained access to Miljรถdata’s data environment and demand 1.5 bitcoins, says Helena Renberg of the police to BLT.

    One bitcoin is estimated to be worth about one million Swedish kronor.

    It is unclear how extensive the cyber attack is, but it is clear so far that Region Gotland, Region Halland, Kalmar municipality, Varberg municipality, Umeรฅ municipality, Luleรฅ municipality, Kiruna municipality, Mรถnsterรฅs municipality, Karlstad municipality, and Skellefteรฅ municipality have been affected, writes TT.”
    https://omni.se/personlig-data-kan-ha-lackt-foretag-kraver-bitcoin/a/eM3q8O

    1. Of course! The hybrid war is ongoing and we’re ducking! Frustrating that we keep taking hit after hit and just act like a hopelessly kind soul!

  21. Russian investigative outlet The Insider spoke with numerous volunteers supplying troops with equipment and donations and discovered an eye-opening situation: in recent months, the volunteer movement has plunged into crisis, with rising signs of fatigue and frustration. ๐ŸงตThread:
    https://x.com/tatarigami_ua/status/1960339659646746704?s=46

    2/ A significant share of supplies for the Russian army, from uniforms to thermal imagers and drones, has come from volunteers since the start of the full-scale invasion. One of them, Natalia from the Bryansk region, says that people used to donate an average of 500 to 1,000 rubles

    3/ Now she must seek funding from businesses and the government, but gets no response. Another volunteer from Belgorod, Ruslan, said he quit the movement, noting that more and more people have no motivation to support the army.

    4/ He also adds: โ€œI judge even by my own circle. In February 2022, everyone told their loved ones, โ€œIt will be over in a week.โ€ Now, parents tell those same children, โ€œIf you see our soldiers, cross to the other side of the street.โ€

    5/ Elena from the Kursk region: โ€œDonations are scarce; people are tired. At first, we thought it would end quickly, and more people donated. Now thereโ€™s no end in sight, and few are willing to help.โ€

    6/ Lera, Belgorod oblast: โ€œOf course, war leaves no one unchanged. I remember what happened after the Chechen wars, how many people were scarred after Afghanistan. I was once traveling with a security officer, and he said, โ€˜Iโ€™ve been in many wars, but the worst is in Ukraine.โ€™โ€

    7/ I would like to add few remarks.

    Both the Russian and Ukrainian armies depend on fundraising to supply units with drones and other equipment, and the exhaustion of volunteer forces can have tangible consequences, as neither state is capable to replace them at the moment

    8/ More importantly, this is not the first sign of fatigue in Russia. Reports of social burnout are growing louder, alongside voices from Z-bloggers increasingly admitting that the war has reached a dead end and shyly suggest to look for โ€œalternative optionsโ€.

    9/ It would be premature to assume that Russian society is on the verge of collapse. But it is clear that the population is not prepared for many more years of war without a visible path to victory – a point often raised against Ukraine, but rarely applied to Russia itself.

    10/ The full article by @the_ins_ru is available at the link below:

    https://theins.ru/confession/283938

      1. Good, I haven’t taken the time to test it myself yet, but maybe it’s just coincidences after all.

        Smart of you to post English content on the English side and get it translated into Swedish!๐Ÿ‘

        (Will arrange Ukrainian as well when I have time, that would make it even easier).

         

    1. This is what Ukraine must exploit with its asymmetric warfare and what we have constantly prevented.

      If the tide has turned, things could move quickly.

  22. From the Gregg just now!
    Interesting:
    “An important event occurred during our Independence Day, something that proves that something is happening behind the scenes. Xi Jinping congratulated Ukraine for the first time ever on their independence. This happens days before Putin’s planned visit to China, and for decades China has never congratulated the former Soviet republics, except for Russia, on their Independence Days. This is of great political significance and I hope the Kremlin takes note of the hint.”

    1. Interesting, noted that Xi had congratulated, but that it was unusual was not known.

      Maybe it’s like I fantasize about, that China is starting to get tired!

    2. I think China sounds generally worried right now.

      Russia has also become quite defensive.

      Soon it will be Ukraine’s fault altogether and that Ukraine is the aggressor when Lavrov stands and shouts in the UN and then condemns Ukraine.

    3. It was interesting, didn’t know that they hadn’t congratulated the former Soviet republics earlier.

      Maybe Xi is starting to feel it’s time to put some pressure on Putin, since Trump isn’t up to it.

      Maybe he can outsmart Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize, that would be something.

  23. Hanging on MXT above – there is zero logic in this energy agreement between the USA – Russia.

    Why?

    Well, because Trump has crashed all damn trade relations with the whole world.

    The same goes for his peace mediation in RU – Ukraine because now the US fleet is outside Venezuela preparing for war.

    That the USA wants a strong Russia at the expense of Europe and China has never been clearer.

  24. We should be cautious with interpretations of China’s statements. 

    That they congratulate Ukraine on Independence Day unfortunately means nothing.

    Always keep in mind that China ONLY does what suits China – no one else!

    China plays with everything and everyone – always. A polite phrase doesn’t really mean anything. 

    Instead, it worries me, it means that China wants to have a nice facade, why? To hide something more violent perhaps… You know – play weak when you are strong and vice versa.

    In short, don’t trust China.

    And, I could be wrong.

      1. China is very active in infrastructure projects in Central America, right? Aren’t they working on an alternative to the Panama Canal that goes through a lot of lakes in a country? Nicaragua?

    1. From that perspective, one can suspect that China is currying favor with Ukraine to protect its own oil imports. This is how the breakdown of China’s oil imports looks like (figures from 2024). The percentages are in dollars, so if the oil from Russia is cheaper, it constitutes an even larger share in terms of volume.

      1. Russia: US$94.8 billion (18.8% of China’s crude oil imports)
      2. Malaysia: $51.6 billion (10.3%)
      3. Saudi Arabia: $49.2 billion (9.8%)
      4. Iraq: $38.2 billion (7.6%)
      5. United Arab Emirates: $29.9 billion (5.9%)
      6. Oman: $27.8 billion (5.5%)
      7. Australia: $25.4 billion (5%)
      8. United States: $23.1 billion (4.6%)
      9. Brazil: $22.9 billion (4.6%)
      10. Indonesia: $20.1 billion (4%)
      11. Qatar: $19 billion (3.8%)
      12. Angola: $17.5 billion (3.5%)
      13. Kuwait: $10.8 billion (2.2%)
      14. Turkmenistan: $9.6 billion (1.9%)
      15. Mongolia: $8.7 billion (1.7%)

      So, Ukraine is disrupting China’s largest oil importer. This may not be good for China’s internal stability, which is one of their key performance indicators.

    2. One can always hope.

      And yes, China does what benefits China, but war, especially nowadays, is rarely positive for any party.

      Now China has taken advantage of the war and a dependent Russia, by getting cheap oil, and sure, it’s not good if Ukraine were to accidentally bomb some pipeline to China.

      At the same time, it’s hardly good for China if Russia collapses either, so I think China wants to keep Russia in check, and hopefully urge Russia to de-escalate in Ukraine.

    1. I think the average will be close to last year, it all depends on temperature and wind.

      The volatility for us with stock prices will be even greater, in addition, it will be set per quarter hour instead of per hour as it is now.

      1. We are heading towards some colder years, I have been told.

        The plague year was two months with an electricity bill of 15,000 SEK per month, unbelievably high.

        1. Big thanks no1! You prove in every post that you are no1! Incredibly to be able to deliver so much high-quality text, on the same topic, but still news from the coffee grounds! It will be a McDonald’s swish to you/your crew.

          Thoughts, Since Europe’s ukraine positive countries, coalition of the Willing, is quite a diverse group, do you think they have a team meeting with the top leaders now and then, and then the green light was given to Ukraine on xyz based on your official motive list that they probably know about? Can it really be done so quietly under the table without leaks, when so many are involved?

  25. Big thanks no1! You prove in every post that you are no1! Incredibly to be able to deliver so much high-quality text, on the same topic, yet news from the coffee grounds! It will be a McDonald’s swish to you/your crew.

    Thoughts, Since Europe’s ukraine positive countries, coalition of the Willing, are quite a diverse group, do you think they have team meetings with top leaders now and then, and then the green light was given to Ukraine on xyz based on your official motive list that they probably know about? Can it really be done so quietly under the table without leaks, when so many are involved?

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