The war in Ukraine 2025-10-19

  • 1000 KWIA
  • 1 Tank
  • 3 AFVs
  • 45 Artillery systems
  • 2 MLRS
  • 444 UAVs
  • 126 Vehicles & Fuel tanks

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127 thoughts on “The war in Ukraine 2025-10-19”

  1. “Putin’s 5,000-km “Shortcut” to Budapest Summit EU airspace is closed to Russian planes, so to meet Trump in Budapest, Putin reportedly has to take a 5,000-km detour. Cause: sanctions and shut skies.
    Effect: the “shortest route” now goes the long way around democracy — more fuel burned, more time wasted, and a perfect photo of isolation. GPS voice: “Recalculating… continue on Sanctions Ring Road for 3,100 miles.”

    https://bsky.app/profile/meanwhileua.bsky.social/post/3m3j5ykiui32p

  2. “1) There has been a notable increase of Russian T-54/55 destroyed recently as a share of total Russian Tank losses as recorded by @WarSpotting  while still modest, only 4 tanks, it’s still a noteworthy increase. 

    2) There have been 88 total Russian tank losses over 3 months, but of these a quarter 22 have been of Unknown Type. Therefore, of the 66 lost tanks of Known types, the 4 T-54/55s represent 6% A small share, but not negligible, as they have been up to now. .. ..”

  3. AFU reports:
    223 combat clashes
    84 aviation strikes
    193 KAB + 3 Missiles
    5114 shelling  (117 from MLRS)
    6343 kamikaze drones
     
    High numbers overall, drones not far from record (6470).
  4. DeepStateMap.
    The Russians have managed to advance southwest of Pokrovsk and are now only 1.5 km from the city center. We will see if Ukraine manages to push them back or if they continue to advance.

    “The enemy advanced near NovoivanivkaTorske and in Pokrovsk.”

  5. “Trump says he hopes to end war without Tomahawks in latest meeting with Zelensky

    • The U.S. and Ukrainian leaders held their sixth meeting since Trump’s return to office in January, speaking in a closed-door session at the White House for over two hours.
    • The leaders discussed providing Tomahawk missiles to Ukraine but have agreed not to comment on those talks publicly, Zelensky said.
    • Trump said he hoped to end the war without Tomahawks but was potentially open to a deal with Kyiv involving the exchange of missiles for Ukrainian drones.
    • Zelensky called the conversation “productive” and said the top priority was securing a ceasefire. He said he was “realistic” about Ukraine’s chances of getting Tomahawks.
    • Trump said both Russia and Ukraine should end the war “right now at the battle line.”
    • Trump plans to meet Vladimir Putin in Budapest for bilateral talks. He said he will be “in touch” with Zelensky, who will not participate directly.”

    https://kyivindependent.com/zelensky-meets-trump-in-washington-as-leaders-set-to-discuss-tomahawk-supply/

  6. Off-Topic, No Kings protests in the USA

    “Almost seven million people participated in the nationwide “No Kings” protests against Donald Trump’s rule in the USA, according to the organizers.

    According to CNN, the demonstrations were largely non-violent and were carried out without any major clashes between protesters and police.

    The Trump administration has previously described the protests as “Hate America” demonstrations and a serious security threat. The administration had threatened to deploy the National Guard to maintain order ahead of the protests.

    In Portland, Oregon, 37-year-old teacher Shawnathan Thibodeaux told the New York Times that the peaceful but colorful protests show that the White House is wrong.”
    https://omni.se/organisatorerna-sju-miljoner-protesterade-mot-trump/a/qP2Kj1

    1. “USA’s President Donald Trump has published an AI-generated video where he, dressed in a royal crown, flies a fighter jet and drops what appears to be feces on protesters.

      The video, which has been published on both Trump’s private and public accounts on Truth Social, is interpreted as a mockery of the millions of protesters who on Saturday protested against the Trump administration under the slogan ‘No kings’.

      TV4 News writes that Democrats have condemned the video as disrespectful and threatening. According to Swedish Radio, several protesters have called the video childish.

      ‘It’s challenging to have an adult discussion when the people you’re talking to are acting like children,’ says protester Sam to the radio.”

      https://omni.se/trump-svarar-med-ai-genererad-bajsvideo/a/kw4WW6

      Vance also posted a video with Trump as king:
      https://bsky.app/profile/jd-vance-1.bsky.social/post/3m3ijow42tc2z

      1. They are so terribly immature and childish in their communication. Can anyone imagine King Charles (it’s probably the world’s oldest monarchy) expressing their dissatisfaction in this way? Those posts are on a five-year-old’s level. Sorry to all five-year-olds!

        1. Yes, it feels like the bar just keeps getting lower and lower. This is how the White House treats journalists who ask questions they don’t like (or don’t have answers to):

          “The White House press office seems unwilling to reveal who suggested Budapest, the capital of Hungary, for an upcoming meeting between Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin. When the American online newspaper Huffington Post asked the question on Friday, a very brief response came from press secretary Karoline Leavitt.

          ”Your mom did it.”

          The same response came from communications director Steven Cheung. Huffington Post followed up by asking Leavitt if she thought the response was funny. The press secretary then criticized the journalist, whom she referred to as a ”left-wing activist”.

          ”Stop sending your fake and biased crap questions.””
          https://omni.se/leavitts-reporterhan-din-mamma-valde-budapest/a/73EXao

          1. Dismal. Firstly, it is a rude response in general, and then as spokespersons for the USA?
            Everything was not better in the past, but at least one could expect normal decency and behavior from the predecessors of the White House.

            1. Agree, one can of course understand that one might get tired of journalists’ questions at times but it must be possible to maintain a higher level than that.

            2. Rune Moberg, the creator of the comic strip “Lilla Fridolfs” but also a writer for the magazine “Se,” where he had a very informative letters to the editor section, once responded to an angry reader with the words: “You should be more hygienic at both ends.” The reader had become angry with RM and explained that he bought Se because he had an outhouse and used the magazine as toilet paper. I think Moberg’s response would have suited Karoline Leavitt as well.

  7. “Putin builds towers around summer house – after Ukraine’s attacks

    At least 11 towers have been erected around Vladimir Putin’s summer residence at Lake Valdai in the Novgorod region. New images show how air defense systems have been placed on top of several of them.

    – They have understood that the war can reach there too, says Lieutenant Colonel Johan Huovinen.”
    https://www.svt.se/nyheter/utrikes/putin-bygger-torn-runt-sommarhuset-efter-ukrainas-attacker

    1. It’s great if all of Putin’s residences get lots of anti-aircraft defense, then there will be fewer strategic bombing targets for Ukraine….

  8. Fram i Natten

    The rice fields are spreading like cancer in Ukraine.
    The stop medicine works but not enough. Stronger things like Gripen / Rafale / Typhoon and Taurus / Gungnir / Meteor 💫 are needed and more.

    The final ingredient will be to add nukes.

    1. Just heard Koffman and others on War on the Rocks, and the question is whether Ukraine really has launchers for Tomahawk or if there would be a long lead time of many months. Perhaps better then with JAASM from F-16 as mentioned. 450 kg bang and over 90 miles range. Quite a few targets can be reached but not all. Otherwise, our hope lies in the Shahed factory getting a flock of Flamingos on them, or an innovative operation like spiderweb against it.

      1. Jake Broe also brought up the issue of lack of land-based launchers. Doesn’t seem to be many at all yet but apparently they have started being produced anyway.

  9. https://x.com/girkingirkin/status/1979792092693143988?s=46

    AFU 08:00: 117 (114 yesterday) of a total of 223(128 yesterday) combat clashes distributed as follows. At 22:00 yesterday AFU reported a total combat clashes of 116.

    N
    N Slobozhansky-Kursk 3
    S Slobozhansky 8↘️
    L
    Kupyansk 11💥↗️
    Lyman 4↘️
    Slovyansk 8↘️
    D
    Kramatorsk 2
    Kostjantynivka 13💥
    Pokrovsk 47💥💥💥↗️
    Oleksandrivskij 16💥
    S
    Huliaypillia 0
    Orikhivsk 2
    Prydniprovskij 3

  10. Thank you to MXT, 205, and Fram i natten for your diligent posting. And thanks to Johan for the yellow walls. I usually read the blog before I read other news or attend to my affairs.

    The reason is that I share the view that what most affects Europe’s, Sweden’s, and thereby my future is what is happening in Ukraine right now. And in Russia.

    Russia will become what it becomes when the war is over, but an absolute must is to put a stop to their influence operations. They are skilled at it. They have entire university programs for national psychology and similar courses for education in influencing opinions.
    Their ravages must be stopped, and the perpetrators identified and eliminated.

  11. He is both right and wrong. He is right that we have failed and not done enough, but he draws the wrong conclusion when he believes that Ukraine should therefore accept peace. The correct conclusion must be to do everything we can for Ukraine.

    The best way to ensure peace in Europe is to let Ukraine crush Russia.

    “Ukraine cannot win the war against Russia and should therefore negotiate peace with the Kremlin. That’s what Britain’s former chief of defense David Richards says in an interview on The Independent’s podcast ‘World of Trouble’.
    According to Richards, Ukraine does not have the manpower to push back the Russian forces on their own. To win, they need help from NATO – and NATO will not intervene, as Ukraine is not an ‘existential issue,’ he argues.
    – Obviously, it is for the Russians.
    Through their actions, Western countries have betrayed Ukraine, says Richards.

    – What we have done is encourage Ukraine to fight, but we have not given them the means to win.”

    https://omni.se/brittiska-generalen-nato-har-svikit-ukraina-de-kan-inte-vinna-mot-ryssland/a/0VejjB

  12. Långläsning
    ✍️🧵Lew Anno Support
    https://x.com/anno1540/status/1979631844032385382?s=46

    (Photo credits @wilendhornets)
    https://dronexl.co/2025/10/18/ukraine-interceptor-drones-air-defense-nato-scrambles/

    Ukraine’s $2,500 Interceptor Drones Are Rewriting Air Defense Doctrine as NATO Scrambles to Learn

    What Ukrainian troops dismissed as “Star Wars” fantasy a year ago has become the most cost-effective air defense innovation of the war—and now NATO is racing to adopt the same technology.

    Ukraine’s cheap interceptor drones are hunting down Russian attack drones mid-flight at a fraction of traditional missile costs, fundamentally changing how modern air defense works.

    This isn’t theory. It’s combat-proven reality saving Ukrainian cities every night while reshaping Western military thinking.

    From Laughable Concept to Combat-Proven Defense System

    When a Ukrainian drone instructor first pitched the idea of flying quadcopters into Russian scout drones mid-air about a year into the war, soldiers thought he’d lost his mind.

    Too difficult to maneuver, they said. Impossible to hit a fast-moving target.

    The instructor’s nickname, Yeti, became synonymous with watching too much science fiction.

    Fast forward to today, and those “impossible” interceptor drones downed 150 Russian attack drones in a single bombardment.

    Ukraine now aims to manufacture 1,000 interceptors daily as Russia hurls growing waves of explosive drones at Ukrainian cities.

    The desperation driving this innovation was real. Ukraine was running low on expensive surface-to-air missiles, partly due to dwindling U.S. arms support in early 2024, and was relying heavily on truck-mounted machine guns to take down Iranian-designed Shahed attack drones. (businessinsider.com)

    — Those defenses couldn’t keep up. Attack drones slipped through, knocking out power grids and forcing rolling blackouts as temperatures dropped below freezing.

    Hospitals worked in the dark, often without water, while civilians scrambled to stockpile firewood and coal.

    (Latest version of the Interceptor drone from Wild Hornets. Photo credit: Astraia Intel / X )

    Wild Hornets Sting: Speed and Economics Reshape Air Defense

    Ukrainian engineers transformed commercial quadcopters into specialized hunter-killers.

    The most successful example is the Sting from Wild Hornets, (wildhornets.com/en/), a volunteer-run nonprofit that has  become an industry leader through relentless iteration.

    The latest version of the Sting screams across Ukrainian skies at 195 mph (315 km/h)—nearly three times faster than the Shahed drones it hunts.

    Built with a 3D-printed, bullet-shaped frame propelled by four rotors, it carries a warhead and uses thermal imaging cameras to track targets at altitudes up to 10,000 feet (3,048 meters).

    Each Sting costs approximately $2,500. Compare that to the $1 million price tag for a single missile in the National Advanced Surface-to-Air Missile System, or even the estimated $35,000 cost of the Shahed drones they’re designed to destroy.

    @wilendhornets Hornets reports their drones have downed more than 400 Shaheds and Gerbera decoy drones

    The drone itself was very complex to make,” said Alex Roslin, a foreign support coordinator for @wilendhornets Hornets.

    The group has shared videos of the Sting screeching like a turbocar across fields and thermal footage of interceptors racing behind Russian Shahed-style drones, offering glimpses into the high-stakes drone hunting that Kyiv’s defenders perform every night.

    Success rates vary dramatically based on pilot skill and conditions. Taras Tymochko, project lead for the Come Back Alive Foundation’s Dronefall program, said hit rates range from 30% for some interceptors to as high as 80% or 90% for the best systems and pilots.

    If the drone is not automated, the most crucial part is the skills of the pilot,” Tymochko said.

    If the pilots are trained well, if they have lots of experience with drone interception, they demonstrate 9 out of 10 results.

    Only the best drone pilots can master interceptor operations. Yeti, the instructor who first proposed the concept, said his Drone Fight Club school has trained roughly 5,200 students, but only several dozen have completed interceptor exams with their 30% pass rate.

    Part 107: Made Easy.®. This industry-leading course will help you pass the FAA Part 107 drone license test – so you can fly drones commercially in the United States.

    Ukraine Targets 1,000 Interceptor Drones Daily as Russia Escalates

    Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy announced in July 2025 an ambitious goal to reach production and deployment of 500 to 1,000 interceptor drones per day.

    “There is a confirmed plan — reaching 500 to 1,000 interceptor drones per day. It won’t be easy,” @ZelenskyyUa said in his nightly address

    The scale of Russia’s drone assault makes this urgent.

    – Last month, Moscow launched more than 800 drones in a single strike, and Western assessments warn the Kremlin could soon send up to 2,000 in a night.

    In July alone, Russia launched more than 6,000 Shahed-type drones against Ukraine.

    Ukrainian Defense Minister Denys Shmyhal emphasized in September that the challenge isn’t producing 1,000 drone airframes—it’s deploying the supporting infrastructure.

    It’s a large system; – its implementation takes some time. But we are confidently, according to the schedule, moving toward this goal,” Shmyhal said.

    The bottleneck is ground control stations, radars, and artificial intelligence guidance systems that create the complete interception ecosystem

    Interceptor drones let Ukraine save its expensive missiles for faster, deadlier cruise and ballistic threats while using $2,500 to $6,000 drones against slower attack drones.

    The economics are brutal and favor the defender for once.

    NATO Adopts Ukrainian Tactics in Historic Role Reversal

    NATO is watching closely and moving fast to adopt Ukrainian innovations. “Hit-to-kill” interceptor drones are one of the most “promising” solutions for European allies to defend against Russian drones, said Admiral Pierre Vandier, NATO’s Supreme Allied Commander Transformation, who oversees modernization for the alliance

    Each day, the two stakeholders in Ukraine are learning something and adapting themselves — if they don’t, they die,” Vandier told Business Insider. (businessinsider.com)

    The challenge for NATO is to be on this horse, which is going very fast. We need to be on the horse and to drive it properly.”

    This represents a stunning reversal of traditional military partnerships. Instead of NATO training Ukraine, alliance members are now learning from Kyiv’s combat experience.

    The UK announced Project OCTOPUS in September to jointly develop and mass-produce thousands of Ukrainian interceptor drones monthly.

    The Netherlands committed €200 million ($215 million USD) for joint drone production in October.
    https://dronexl.co/2025/10/11/netherlands-joint-ukraine-drone-production/

    Denmark hosted Ukrainian specialists who demonstrated the Sting by successfully downing a Danish Banshee training drone during a NATO exercise.
    https://dronexl.co/2025/10/05/ukraine-shoots-down-danish-drone-in-nato-exercise/

    (Photo credit: Wild Hornets)
    @wilendhornets Hornets said their Sting was used to eliminate drones in tests over Danish airspace as the alliance looks for cheaper drone-killers than fighter jets and Patriot missiles, which can cost $1 to $4 million per interceptor.

    Russia’s Jet-Powered Counter-Move Sparks Next Innovation Race

    The war is a cycle of constant and deadly innovation. Russia’s next move may already be here.

    In recent months, the Kremlin has increasingly been launching jet-powered Shahed drones.

    Dubbed the Geran-3 by Ukrainians, these new loitering munitions are rumored to fly at speeds up to 310 miles per hour (500 km/h)—essentially a piloted cruise missile that’s 100 mph faster than top interceptor drones currently deployed.

    Ukrainian Defense Intelligence reports the Geran-3 uses a Chinese-produced turbojet engine allowing speeds of 230 to 310 mph (300-500 km/h) with an operational range up to 620 miles (1,000 km).

    The jet-powered drone is equipped with jamming-resistant satellite navigation using a 12-element adaptive antenna array, making it immune to the electronic warfare tactics that work against slower Shaheds.

    Behind the scenes, Ukrainian engineers are already working toward defenses for what could be the air war’s next phase.

    DroneXL’s Take

    We’ve been tracking Ukraine’s interceptor evolution since April 2024 when the concept was just emerging from Brave1’s innovation cluster.

    Watching this technology mature from prototype to NATO doctrine in less than 18 months is remarkable—but it also reveals something deeply broken about Western defense procurement.

    #NATO spent years trying to bring Ukraine up to alliance standards through traditional training programs and equipment transfers.

    The brutal reality of daily drone warfare flipped that relationship entirely. Ukraine’s necessity-driven innovation cycle has lapped the Western defense procurement system that typically takes years to field new capabilities.

    When troops are being hunted by drones every night, you don’t have time for five-year development timelines and congressional budget battles

    The economics here are devastating to traditional air defense thinking

    A $2,500 FPV interceptor destroying a $35,000 Shahed drone while preserving a $1 million NASAMS missile for cruise missile threats—that’s not just smart tactics, it’s survival mathematics when facing an adversary launching 800 drones per night.

    Admiral Vandier put it perfectly: “If you fire $1 million missiles at $10,000 targets, eventually you lose”


    But Russia’s Geran-3 response shows why this is an arms race, not a solution. Jet-powered drones at 310 mph create an entirely new problem set.

    Can Ukraine develop interceptors fast enough to catch them?

    Will AI-guided systems solve the speed gap?

    How does electronic warfare immunity change the game?

    The next iteration is already underway in workshops across Ukraine.

    The broader lesson extends beyond Ukraine. Every NATO member now benefits from Ukraine’s hard-won combat experience without paying the human cost.

    The UK’s Project OCTOPUS and Netherlands’ €200 million joint production deal prove the model works—partnering directly with Ukrainian manufacturers delivers better results faster than routing funds through traditional Western contractors.

    That makes continued support for Ukraine not just morally right, but strategically essential for the alliance’s future readiness against drone warfare threats that aren’t going away.

    1. Interesting long read!

      I guess the solution to jet-powered Shaheds will be about trying to predict their routes better so they can be intercepted, because it will probably be difficult to build drones that can match their speed.

    2. I assume that faster (jet-powered) drones as a countermeasure cost more? But on the other hand, the Russian ones surely cost more as well? So the economy is still on the defender’s side?

    3. Absolutely fantastic awesome this race 👍

      A UA vampire hunter has also shot down one of the robots don’t remember which one so it’s moving

  13. 🇧🇾Belarus Delivers 70 Trainloads of Ammunition to 🇷🇺Russia in Less Than Two Weeks in September From 09/18/2025 to 09/30/2025, Belarus delivered 70 trainloads of ammunition to the Russians, equivalent to approximately 4.5 thousand tons – that’s between 55,000 and 83,000 artillery shells depending on the nomenclature. They are also supplying shells for the Grad MLRS.”

  14. Not sure if we’ve had this up here already, but damn good by the court!

    “A Polish court says no to a German request to extradite a Ukrainian suspected of the explosion of Nord Stream, writes TT.

    The man was arrested in Poland at the end of September. He is one of several people identified as responsible for the explosions in the Baltic Sea three years ago.

    According to the ruling, the destruction was a military act during a justifiable defensive war, not an act of sabotage.

    – The actions were not illegal, but on the contrary justifiable, rational, and fair, says Judge Dariusz Lubowski.

    Prime Minister Donald Tusk, who recently said that the man will not be extradited, says the case is now closed, writes Bloomberg.

    With the court’s decision, the man is released.”

    1. I wrote about this the other day, but then only about Tusk and some other politicians not wanting the man to be extradited to Germany. Back then, the criticism was that politicians should not interfere with the judicial system. Now I don’t know how Tusk’s statements have influenced the court, but it’s good that the judiciary has had its say.

  15. 🥇 Andrii Tkachuk, a Ukrainian ultrarunner and serviceman, won the gold medal at the IAU 24-Hour World Championship in France. He covered 294,062 kilometers in one day.

  16. Lyman, Kupiansk, Vovchansk, and Pokrovsk are not doing very well.

    Gregg used to write about Myrnohrad, has he said anything recently?

    Some warning on this but RU has now confirmed that they are satisfied with DONETSK oblast, and probably also Luhansk even though it was not mentioned.

    They will completely leave ZAPORIZIA and KHERSON oblasts.

    Unfortunately, this is something Ukraine can live with and the situation is critical, and Europe wants peace more than anything else.

    If we reach the point of a ceasefire – then we are back in 1938 and Chamberlain.

    I thought we were past this but it doesn’t seem so at all.

    1. If Putin settles for Donbass (Donetsk and Luhansk), he has blinked for the first time, as he has now chosen to back down on his original demands.

      I interpret this as him actually starting to feel a little desperate. Therefore, there is no reason for Ukraine to accommodate his demands. 

       

  17. The demonstrations in the UK and USA now with no-kings.

    RU will try to turn them into their attacks on the governments over time, absolutely high risk.

    Just the UK and USA are the most polarized now and a good breeding ground.

    Unfortunately, the Russian Palestinian movement must close down its operations because there was peace, but they will probably come up with something new they are passionate about soon. Hard to believe they all went to the employment office this past week.

    1. Doesn’t the Palestinian movement continue to demonstrate? I thought I heard something about them being out shouting and waving flags yesterday? But I agree, they probably need something new, at least when Israel has completely left Gaza.

  18. We’ll see how this develops, but for Trump, a ceasefire would be positive and look good for him.

    Ukraine can continue to retreat, but right now that’s all they can manage – a delaying action.

    Europe’s leaders are saying PEACE more and more now.

    You will hear a NOOOOOOO all the way to Sweden from the Caribbean if this happens.

  19. The second thing that is going in the wrong direction is that –

    more drones and FAB + that a larger quantity of the drones are autonomous “loitering munitions”.

    UA shoots down fewer robots, the old ones are used up and RU has modified so apparently 6% are shot down now.

    Fewer drones are shot down – 70%-75% now.

    Europe needs to wake up pretty quickly now I guess but we seem to be back to wanting to talk about PEACE.

    What did Churchill say about such things in 1938?

  20. Jojje Olsson:

    “The image shows a handful of parliamentarians from China, who just before the weekend had their first meeting with the EU Parliament in seven years. In the meeting, they stated, among other things, that NATO has no raison d’être and that Europe should not have any direct contact with Taiwan.”

    https://x.com/jojjeols/status/1979859682178338833

    “Read here about how what many hoped was a genuine attempt to improve relations from China, rather seems to be based on a plan to establish closer contact with Europe to echo Russian propaganda and try to shift the EU from Washington into the hands of Beijing.”

    https://kinamedia.se/2025/10/19/i-forsta-motet-pa-sju-ar-sager-kina-till-eu-att-nato-inte-borde-finnas/

    1. Europe should think a bit more long-term and definitely beyond Trump. Trump may be a jerk, but so far he can’t measure up to Xi and the rest of the communist party. There are levels in hell, and buttering up to China just because you hate Trump won’t end well…

    2. I have seen Chinese people do that – they do it when they think they no longer need you and can speed up.

      big warning flag for me anyway.

      1. China has observed what we in Europe have also understood. Namely, that NATO has a very weak defense. NATO has probably benefited more from Finland and Sweden joining than the other way around, I would think.

  21. “🇬🇧⚠️ Russian hackers hit eight UK military bases and posted Ministry of Defence (MoD) staff names and emails on the dark web, – Mirror The MoD is now investigating the massive breach that is suspected of having been carried out by the Russian group Lynx.

    Affected sites include RAF Lakenheath, in Suffolk, where US Air Force F-35 stealth jets are located alongside suspected nuclear bombs.”

  22. “Zelenskyy urges allies not to appease Russia after failing to secure US missiles
    Ukraine’s president calls for meeting of European-led ‘coalition of the willing’ on his return from talks with Trump”

  23. 🇺🇦🇭🇺🇺🇸 Zelensky is also ready to go to Budapest: “Trump should put more pressure on Putin than on Hamas. Putin is stronger than Middle Eastern terrorists.” He also called Putin a terrorist, but confirmed his readiness to meet the Russian president face to face.

    “If we really want a just and lasting peace, we need both sides of this tragedy. How can there be any agreements without us?”, – added Zelensky.”

  24. (In a meeting with Volodymyr Zelenskyy at the White House on Friday, Donald Trump repeatedly echoed talking points Vladimir Putin had made in their call a day earlier, according to people familiar with the matter © Press Service Of The President Of Ukraine)

    Trump urged Zelenskyy to accept Putin’s terms or be ‘destroyed’ by Russia

    US president tossed aside maps of Ukraine frontline in volatile White House meeting.

    The meeting between the US and Ukrainian presidents descended many times into a “shouting match”, with Trump “cursing all the time”, people familiar with the matter said.

    Trump urged Zelenskyy to accept Putin’s terms or be ‘destroyed’ by Russia

    1. Missed yesterday’s post, need to catch up later.

      Quickly swung back to Trump to normal mode. A call with Putin and it was settled. Actually thought the Indian axes would be stopped first after the meeting in Budapest.

  25. Fram i Natten

    Should Ukraine really teach us about drones?
    They might just stick to teaching us about the simpler Chinese things so that we don’t escalate our conflicts.

    1. Almost inclined to agree, considering how poorly the US support to Ukraine has been since Trump took over and what seems to be happening in that country.

  26. Off-Topic, Israel-Palestine

    “It is becoming increasingly difficult to claim that a ceasefire prevails in Gaza. This is stated by BBC’s Frank Gardner in an analysis following Sunday’s developments, when Israel carried out new air strikes after accusing Hamas of shelling earlier in the day.

    It is worrying for all residents who thought the war was over, he says.
    – Today, it really looks like war.

    Gardner points out, however, that it is “entirely possible” that mediating countries such as Egypt and Qatar can persuade both sides to calm the situation.

    SVT’s Middle East correspondent Gilda Hamidi-Nia notes that both sides accuse each other of violating the ceasefire, and says that the initial phase of the agreement was early described as fragile.
    – Now we see how fragile it actually is.”

    https://omni.se/analys-sa-har-ser-krig-ut-vapenvilan-i-gungning/a/qPznAe

    1. Business as usual in that part of the world. As long as there is any living Hamas member left, there will be unrest, and as long as Israel bombs Gaza to rubble, there will be more and more people seeing their hopes crushed, and joining Hamas.

      An evil circle that is very difficult to break

  27. “Donald Trump has urged Volodymyr Zelensky to agree to Vladimir Putin’s demands for peace, according to sources cited by the Financial Times. According to the newspaper, this week’s meeting escalated into a loud argument where Trump was ‘constantly swearing’.

    Trump is said to have repeated arguments that Putin put forward in the phone call the presidents held the day before, including that Ukraine must give up the entire Donbas region.

    The American president is also reported to have said that Vladimir Putin can ‘destroy’ Ukraine if ‘he wants to’ and thrown away maps showing the situation on the frontlines. Zelensky left the meeting with a pessimistic feeling.” https://bsky.app/profile/antongerashchenko.bsky.social/post/3m3kuovrg7c2t

    Probably behind a paywall:
    https://www.ft.com/content/7960c6aa-dbfa-4a55-91e8-ae44601842ec

    1. Trump is back in Putin’s leash, wondering what Putin said to Trump during their conversation. It will be exciting to see what happens after the Budapest talks, no good for Ukraine, I suppose.

          1. He thought he was starting to find balance for the first time during this presidential period in the past few weeks. The latest call with Putin got him back in rotation.

            1. Fram i Natten

              WHAT does slime have on taco really.
              Besides a firm grip around the balls?
              taco may like the smell of gutter shit. 💩

              Or does it have little girls or organs from little boys to offer?

  28. Fram i Natten

    Ukraine’s October strikes crippled the Feodosiia oil terminal in occupied Crimea.

    ISW says at least 19 main and six smaller tanks were damaged or destroyed, and “it is unclear when or if Russia will be able to repair it.”

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